The F1 thread

fretmeister

Drivers and the top 3 paid employees are outside the cap IIRC.

fretmeister

stickyfiddle said:

As for putting a design on reddit, that would be marvelous. And if he posted it on 1 Jan 2025 you can bet at least 7 teams would show up in Jan 2026 with a variation of that design.

The FIA would go nuts with the "must substantially design your own car" requirement in the rules.
But as soon as it was online for free it would have to be considered common knowledge.

They couldn't sue Newey as being retired he owes them nothing and would not be caught by the rules, and they couldn't take action against the teams without writing off a season or 2.

If we assume that pretty much all the teams now have adequate construction ability, it would probably be the teams at the back who did the best with it as they have the largest Wind Tunnel allocation!

Boromedic

euan said:

The only link between Aston Martin the road car company and Aston Martin the F1 team is Stroll. 

The cost of Newey will be exempt as one of the three highest paid employees/contractors

Ahhh, forgot about that, well I suppose it's anyone's chance to grab him then. Of course then Newey can write a blank cheque but doesn't need the cash. It all helps though. 

Newey is now the Man With No Name, playing them all

TimmyO

Whoa - fantastic Q3! 

Bloody well earned pole there - and that was with Verstappen getting a synchronised-tow on his last run. 

Front row cars look well matched, and same for 3-6. 

fretmeister

stickyfiddle

Great Q3 and a deserved pole from Lando. Max looks quicker on race pace but hopefully Lando and the 2 Mercs can give him some fight

euan

Who would have thought that publicly diminishing the influence and alienating your star designer from the development of your 2024 car would result in your dominance rapidly decreasing. 

TimmyO

fretmeister said:

Proper actual LOL 

fretmeister

Thank you.
I stole it myself. 

markr76

euan said:

Who would have thought that publicly diminishing the influence and alienating your star designer from the development of your 2024 car would result in your dominance rapidly decreasing. 

I’m sure it’s purely coincidental. Redbull have a strong aero team full stop and it would be unfair to say it was all down to AN. 

I think it’s more that the other teams are starting to close in on them. I’m sure Redbull are starting to suffer the law of diminishing returns. Plus there’s talk that their last update has unsettled the car’s handling a bit. Although Horner has said that’s not the cause. If you can believe anything he says. 

You have to remember that McLaren have taken one of Redbull’s top technical guys. They have improved massively since he started there. Rob Marshall I think it is if I recall 

euan

markr76 said:

euan said:

Who would have thought that publicly diminishing the influence and alienating your star designer from the development of your 2024 car would result in your dominance rapidly decreasing. 

I’m sure it’s purely coincidental. Redbull have a strong aero team full stop and it would be unfair to say it was all down to AN. 

I think it’s more that the other teams are starting to close in on them. I’m sure Redbull are starting to suffer the law of diminishing returns. Plus there’s talk that their last update has unsettled the car’s handling a bit. Although Horner has said that’s not the cause. If you can believe anything he says. 

You have to remember that McLaren have taken one of Redbull’s top technical guys. They have improved massively since he started there. Rob Marshall I think it is if I recall 

Funny you mention Rob Marshall, when he first signed for McLaren, Horner diminished his influence on the F1 car under current regulations. This sidelining is the exact reason why he went to McLaren, he wanted a forefront role in F1 engineering 

guitars4you

So tell me - Has McClaren and Norris closed the gap with improvements - Or has Max and Red Bull dipped a touch - Or even a bit of both 

stickyfiddle

guitars4you said:

So tell me - Has McClaren and Norris closed the gap with improvements - Or has Max and Red Bull dipped a touch - Or even a bit of both 

Pretty sure it’s just McLaren getting with it and making their car faster. I don’t believe Max has dropped for a second 

stickyfiddle

Anyway…. GEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOORGE RUSSELL!!!!!!

stickyfiddle

Lap 3. Ah beans 

Penn

Yeah that was my reaction to. Then it was no George! 

Dontgiveupyourdayjob

Good race that by Barcelona standards. Some good hard but fair wheel to wheel racing from some notch drivers. Really pleased to see Lewis back on the podium.

stickyfiddle

Ended a damp squib at the front but otherwise wasn’t bad. 

A late safety car would’ve been fun though  

TimmyO

I liked the fact that RB had to turn the power back up and push. 

Lando on for 2nd this year? He doesn’t have much luck in opening laps though. 

stickyfiddle

TimmyO said:

I liked the fact that RB had to turn the power back up and push. 

Lando on for 2nd this year? He doesn’t have much luck in opening laps though. 

Yep. Starts and faultless first laps is the last thing he really needs to pick up to be consistently in the hunt for a win. 

stickyfiddle said:

guitars4you said:

So tell me - Has McClaren and Norris closed the gap with improvements - Or has Max and Red Bull dipped a touch - Or even a bit of both 

Pretty sure it’s just McLaren getting with it and making their car faster. I don’t believe Max has dropped for a second 

Just to add here I think Perez the last few races demonstrates it's definitely not Max going slower but the rest of the field closing up. Checo is a similar gap behind Max as ever before, the difference is there are now more like 6-8 cars in that gap while in the past there was usually only 1 or 2