Victory Amps Launching tomorrow!!

spacecadet

Well I'm just full of new toy info today aren't I! There are a few sneaky demos out there already. I know I'll be checking these out. Just concerned about the price tag!

http://www.victoryamps.com/

digitalscream

Price leaked a little on the Andertons site:

http://www.andertons.co.uk/combo-amps/pid30818/cid691/victory-v10-the-baron-guitar-amplifier.asp

Interesting features, but not sure they really justify the price.

Bogwhoppit

I'm waiting for the release of their 'Biggles' 3x10 combo.

rockmonster

Re-worked carrera for twice the price? And a couple of reworked MK 50's. Wasn't a 100 MK50 made for Gary Moore?

digitalscream

The V100 isn't a rework of the MK50, I don't think. It was specced from the ground up by Rob Chapman, and now Guthrie's using one too.

rockmonster

Old cynic that I am ha ha! Yep knew Guthrie was using one, will be interesting to hear one.

Fretwired

digitalscream said:

The V100 isn't a rework of the MK50, I don't think. It was specced from the ground up by Rob Chapman, and now Guthrie's using one too.

I'm not sure. The was a 'Monkey Lord' amp with the Monkey logo which mutated into a Victory amp and is being launched as a Rob Chapman signature model under the moniker Silverback. I'm pretty sure the amp Guthrie has is in the 'Cornford' ball park sound wise. Rob Chapman has used Cornford amps in the past. I gleaned this info from posts on the Cornford and Rob Chapman forums. It could all be bollocks though ..

I'm not sure about the logo or name ...

ThePrettyDamned

Quite expensive, for a ten watter!

I never trust "specced from the ground up". It's probably just a modded existing circuit, like a Marshall alike, or a cornford alike.

Truthfully, I always thought cornfords sounded like a Marshall with some krang smoothed out...

So, they probably sound like something available cheaper. My Oh my, I'm one cynical son of a gun.

That said, if they are original, unique sounding (and I mean unique, not just "slightly different to a...") amps, then I'll happily eat humble pie

Not really into Guthrie 's live tone, it's a bit too tame and tasteful for me. Designed to not offend, I suppose... But his sounds on record are pretty good.

digitalscream

Fretwired said:

digitalscream said:

The V100 isn't a rework of the MK50, I don't think. It was specced from the ground up by Rob Chapman, and now Guthrie's using one too.

I'm not sure. The was a 'Monkey Lord' amp with the Monkey logo which mutated into a Victory amp and is being launched as a Rob Chapman signature model under the moniker Silverback. I'm pretty sure the amp Guthrie has is in the 'Cornford' ball park sound wise. Rob Chapman has used Cornford amps in the past. I gleaned this info from posts on the Cornford and Rob Chapman forums. It could all be bollocks though ..

I'm not sure about the logo or name ...

That's kind of it - Rob wanted an amp, but he didn't want it known as the "Rob Chapman Signature"; MK was launching a new brand, so they decided to work together based on the fact that MK wanted a kickstart to his launch campaign (without the £££££ associated with landing a big-name artist) and Rob loves MK's work.

Guthrie's comments about the graphics on the early Silverback protos were rather amusing, though - something like "...this ridiculous monkey-lettering..."

Moltisanti

not a massive fan of Guthrie's tone, but it works well for his style to highlight all the nuances of his playing. wasn't the RK Cornford the good one ?

Fortheloveofguitar

rockmonster said:

Re-worked carrera for twice the price? And a couple of reworked MK 50's. Wasn't a 100 MK50 made for Gary Moore?

I agree!

These are based on the old Cornford circuits with some pcb sections to keep costs down. Is just a rebadged Cornford brand with a couple of 'New features' to avoid being a carbon copy.

Pick up a seconhand Cornford and save your money!

hotpickups

Lets hope their customer service is better than the poxy service one got from Cornford. I won't buy aby amp let alone a Cornford again without a reasonable customer service

Dave_Mc

wow that's even more expensive than the carrera. and i thought the carrera was pretty expensive.

digitalscream

Obviously it'll depend on the headroom of this particular amp, but it strikes me that 10W isn't going to be enough for a gigging context; the minimum I'd usually consider is 15W, but preferably 20W. Then again, 10W is way too much for home use without if you like cranking it a bit without an attenuator. That leaves recording.

£1200+ for a recording amp isn't something I feel comfortable with...I have a feeling that this amp is going to have a fairly small niche

GuitarMonkey

Fretwired said:

I'm not sure about the logo or name ...

I'm sure. I think they are terrible. 

bertie

ThePrettyDamned said:

Quite expensive, for a ten watter!

this kind of comment always "amuses" me

ourmaninthenorth

From looks alone I'll find them easy to swerve. If they sound anything like the Cornford's I've had, even easier. 

ThePrettyDamned

bertie;46807" said:

ThePrettyDamned said:

Quite expensive, for a ten watter!



this kind of comment always "amuses" me

There are other hand wired single channel amps for a lot less in that power bracket. I know wattage doesn't equal cost, but this does still seem really pricey for what it is!

From what I've seen, more powerful amps have a lot more going on inside, so they can justify the cost.

Edit: there are hand wired vox or orange amps that cost less. Okay, feature wise, I don't know how they'll fare, but it doesn't look like this one offers anything particularly different?

stickyfiddle

ThePrettyDamned said:

There are other hand wired single channel amps for a lot less in that power bracket. I know wattage doesn't equal cost, but this does still seem really pricey for what it is! 

From what I've seen, more powerful amps have a lot more going on inside, so they can justify the cost.

Edit: there are hand wired vox or orange amps that cost less. Okay, feature wise, I don't know how they'll fare, but it doesn't look like this one offers anything particularly different?

There are cheaper handwired amps, but those are made in the far east, and this is made in the UK. That's the bulk of the cost difference right there.

ThePrettyDamned

stickyfiddle;46846" said:

ThePrettyDamned said:

There are other hand wired single channel amps for a lot less in that power bracket. I know wattage doesn't equal cost, but this does still seem really pricey for what it is! 



From what I've seen, more powerful amps have a lot more going on inside, so they can justify the cost.



Edit: there are hand wired vox or orange amps that cost less. Okay, feature wise, I don't know how they'll fare, but it doesn't look like this one offers anything particularly different?





There are cheaper handwired amps, but those are made in the far east, and this is made in the UK. That's the bulk of the cost difference right there.

*eats own words*

I take it all back. Didn't realise they were far eastern manufactured!

I eagerly anticipate the video demos.

Jalapeno

Left feeling a bit meh overall .....