I'm sick of being told I don't own a true les paul and I should sell it to get an older one!!!

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  • RichardjRichardj Frets: 1538
    If it is made by the right manufacturer and they put the model name on it then that is what it is. Simples.

    It is the same for all the popular brands and models.

    Everything else is down to personal choice and budget.

    I despise that degree of cork sniffery, with everything on '11' in a crowded pub who can tell or even care?

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  • stenio83stenio83 Frets: 81
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    @Richardj so true was you referring to gibsons from '11' onwards eg 2011?
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  • ESBlondeESBlonde Frets: 3646
    Chances are your detractors don't even own a Les Paul. So if a Suhr stratotype owned tells you you don't have a real LP; is their claim valid becaose they don't have a real american stratocaster?
    Remember, of the 1,500 or so Gibson les pauls made in 1958-1960, only about 3,000 still exist;-)  Also among that hallowed few there are some beautiful instruments which are a real enlightenment to play, but there are some dogs too which have all the personality of a house brick.
    Your Guitar is unique and personal, there is every reason to believe it is a cracking instrument so stick with it.


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  • BogwhoppitBogwhoppit Frets: 2754

    I like the good sounding ones. simples


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  • hubobuloushubobulous Frets: 2372
    ESBlonde said:
    Chances are your detractors don't even own a Les Paul. So if a Suhr stratotype owned tells you you don't have a real LP; is their claim valid becaose they don't have a real american stratocaster?

    Yes, cos their Suhr is better ;-)

    Boom!!
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  • stenio83stenio83 Frets: 81
    Bogwhoppit;637478" said:
    I like the good sounding ones. simples
    Wow @Bogwhoppit that's a change of tune!? Considering your previous comments (no pun intended) :-), I'm pretty sure some of the great sounding ones have 2 piece fretboards too. and so begins one of life's many compromises,

    it just reinforces my point because I bet a 2 piece modern les in the right hands could sound better than a vintage one.
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  • GuitarZeroGuitarZero Frets: 254
    I've got a 2014 and it's a beast.
    Mine too.  I don't care that people scoff at the 12th fret inlay, as soon as I plug it in, it blows minds...!
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  • xmrchixmrchi Frets: 2810
    I have not read all the comments so this has probably been said, but if it's made by Gibson and is a Les paul model then all is good, is a new Ford escort still an escort? Yup, it's def more a gibson les Paul than a squire is a stratocaster :-D
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  • hubobuloushubobulous Frets: 2372
    mrchi said:
    I have not read all the comments so this has probably been said, but if it's made by Gibson and is a Les paul model then all is good, is a new Ford escort still an escort? Yup, it's def more a gibson les Paul than a squire is a stratocaster :-D
    Hang on....

    A new Ford Escort is def more a gibson les Paul than a squire is a stratocaster? Now I'm confuzzled
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  • GuitarMonkeyGuitarMonkey Frets: 1883
    The Ford Escort hasn't been made for years - it's all Ford Focus these days.
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  • BogwhoppitBogwhoppit Frets: 2754
    stenio83 said:
    Bogwhoppit;637478" said:
    I like the good sounding ones. simples
    Wow @Bogwhoppit that's a change of tune!? Considering your previous comments (no pun intended) :-),
    Ah, but I never said they sounded bad, or that there is a true Les Paul. I just passed comment on your post about no laminate boards after 2012, and pointed out where there could be perceived disappointments in Gibson's marketing strategy.


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  • richardhomerrichardhomer Frets: 25006
    ESBlonde;637472" said:
    Chances are your detractors don't even own a Les Paul. So if a Suhr stratotype owned tells you you don't have a real LP; is their claim valid becaose they don't have a real american stratocaster?

    Remember, of the 1,500 or so Gibson les pauls made in 1958-1960, only about 3,000 still exist;-)  Also among that hallowed few there are some beautiful instruments which are a real enlightenment to play, but there are some dogs too which have all the personality of a house brick.

    Your Guitar is unique and personal, there is every reason to believe it is a cracking instrument so stick with it.
    ^ This guy knows a thing or two about Gibsons - so please feel reassured.
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  • stenio83stenio83 Frets: 81
    Bogwhoppit;637561" said:
    stenio83 said:

    Bogwhoppit;637478" said:I like the good sounding ones. simples

    Wow @Bogwhoppit that's a change of tune!? Considering your previous comments (no pun intended) :-),





    Ah, but I never said they sounded bad, or that there is a true Les Paul. I just passed comment on your post about no laminate boards after 2012, and pointed out where there could be perceived disappointments in Gibson's marketing strategy.

    To be fair I know you didn't sorry if it came across like that. So in all honesty hand on heart do you consider them true les Paul's or not? And if there was a 2013 for a 2 piece fingerboard would you buy it if it sounded amazing?

    Or is the fretboard issue really a big issue to you personally?

    @Bigwhoppit
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  • BogwhoppitBogwhoppit Frets: 2754
    stenio83 said:
     So in all honesty hand on heart do you consider them true les Paul's or not? And if there was a 2013 for a 2 piece fingerboard would you buy it if it sounded amazing?

    Or is the fretboard issue really a big issue to you personally?

    I have a 2013 SG with two piece board, and I've owned 70s, 90s and a 2007 chambered Les Paul. They all sound the same to me.

    Wood, strings, magnets and a lead. Its just the price I object to, and the constant changing of specs by Gibson.. I suppose the best way to sum up is 'Will the real Les Paul stand up'.


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  • xmrchixmrchi Frets: 2810
    hubobulous;637543" said:
    mrchi said:

    I have not read all the comments so this has probably been said, but if it's made by Gibson and is a Les paul model then all is good, is a new Ford escort still an escort? Yup, it's def more a gibson les Paul than a squire is a stratocaster :-D





    Hang on....

    A new Ford Escort is def more a gibson les Paul than a squire is a stratocaster? Now I'm confuzzled
    Damn you @huboulous! Just nod and agree! :-D
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  • hubobuloushubobulous Frets: 2372
    @mrchi - your analogy of cars and guitars makes complete sense to me. You are a wizard of logic and your spells of illumination have worked their wonders on me :-)
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  • blueskunkblueskunk Frets: 2934
    Lol
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  • blueskunkblueskunk Frets: 2934
    U should get an older one though mate.
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  • stenio83stenio83 Frets: 81
    blueskunk;637623" said:
    U should get an older one though mate.

    Really whys that? Just curious. :-)
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  • John_PJohn_P Frets: 2774
    I've got a 2002 - I didn't like the colour and took a sander to it.    Who cares what other people think - if you like the way it plays, sounds and looks then all is good.  Mine plays and sounds great, I now like the way it looks but that's only my opinion. Anyone who disagrees can say they have different taste but why would their taste matter - they aren't the one playing it.
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