Drews Recording Thread

PolarityMan

cheers, the drums one was really interesting, will prob check out the others after dinner

spark240

Dude...all great vids...personally as an S1 user I have loads of questions on that alone,..plus the usual general questions. 

Just on the vocals...any reason why you didn't use an FX send for all those verbs etc?

Save on processing power?

And...how come 2 x Pro EQ on some tracks?

Drew_TNBD

spark240 said:

Did you write the automation in real time with fader, or draw it in?

Bit of both to be honest. Studio One does this automation clean up thing too, so when you ride a fader is kinda tidies up your crappy fader riding!

spark240 said:

Juts on the vocals...any reason why you didn't use an FX send for all those verbs etc?

Mainly because I want multiple reverb tails all combined together, rather than a thicker single reverb if that makes sense?

Save on processing power?

And...how come 2 x Pro EQ on some tracks?

The first EQ usually serves to clean up resonance problems and to do a basic high-cut and low-cut. Then the second serves the more surgical stuff.

PolarityMan

So watching the bass one now, the clank track, is that a duplicate of the other tracks or did you double track the bass? I pretty much always quad track distorted guitars but usually just use one take of bass.

Drew_TNBD

PolarityMan said:

So watching the bass one now, the clank track, is that a duplicate of the other tracks or did you double track the bass? I pretty much always quad track distorted guitars but usually just use one take of bass.

They're all totally separate recordings dude.

Clean tracks - amp + cab + mics
clank tracks - Darkglass + amp + cab + mics (all the low-end filtered)
dirty tracks - Darkglass + amp + cab + mics

Handsome_Chris

Drew_fx said:

Dudes - I've decided to make this a video series and I'm going to start this weekend. Any preferences as to which song I should do???

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/album/wires-dream-wires

@Drew_FX, I've got a preference.  Sex On Fire.

Drew_TNBD

Handsome_Chris said:

Drew_fx said:

Dudes - I've decided to make this a video series and I'm going to start this weekend. Any preferences as to which song I should do???

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/album/wires-dream-wires

@Drew_FX, I've got a preference.  Sex On Fire.

You're a bell Chris.

PolarityMan

Drew_fx said:

PolarityMan said:

So watching the bass one now, the clank track, is that a duplicate of the other tracks or did you double track the bass? I pretty much always quad track distorted guitars but usually just use one take of bass.

They're all totally separate recordings dude.

Clean tracks - amp + cab + mics
clank tracks - Darkglass + amp + cab + mics (all the low-end filtered)
dirty tracks - Darkglass + amp + cab + mics

Takes sound tight!

PolarityMan

Dunno why but I assumed you've be able to tell double tracks far more easily on bass.

Drew_TNBD

Sorry, I meant that they're different recordings. But they are all the same DI going through. Hence tightness!

bingefeller

How do you know frequencies to boost and cut on the drums?  Like how do you know the stick attack is the 3 - 5k region?

Drew_TNBD

bingefeller said:

How do you know frequencies to boost and cut on the drums?  Like how do you know the stick attack is the 3 - 5k region?

Well you should always use your ears, and use the resonant EQ trick to dial it in. But there are some basic guidelines out there. I've just kinda learned from various online resources over the years. I recommend this book: http://www.systematicproductions.com/mixing-guide.htm

And this one:
http://www.mixingwithyourmind.com/

They're the two best resources ever imho.

randomhandclaps

I haven't had time to actually watch the videos in full but basically what you are saying is that you recorded a load of stuff into the computer and the computer's do-dah sorted it all out into a song and made it sound good, right?

Yes, I genuinely have been asked something very similar MORE THAN ONCE?

Handsome_Chris

Drew_fx said:

Handsome_Chris said:

Drew_fx said:

Dudes - I've decided to make this a video series and I'm going to start this weekend. Any preferences as to which song I should do???

http://bridgedisaster.co.uk/album/wires-dream-wires

@Drew_FX, I've got a preference.  Sex On Fire.

You're a bell Chris.

But I'm your bell, Drew xxx

Clarky

reserved for future Japanese girl video

PolarityMan

Drew_fx said:

Sorry, I meant that they're different recordings. But they are all the same DI going through. Hence tightness!

Ahh interesting so you re-amped it basically? 

Drew_TNBD

PolarityMan said:

Drew_fx said:

Sorry, I meant that they're different recordings. But they are all the same DI going through. Hence tightness!

Ahh interesting so you re-amped it basically? 

Yeah exactly. With different settings for each group essentially.

bingefeller

Drew_fx said:

bingefeller said:

How do you know frequencies to boost and cut on the drums?  Like how do you know the stick attack is the 3 - 5k region?

Well you should always use your ears, and use the resonant EQ trick to dial it in. But there are some basic guidelines out there. I've just kinda learned from various online resources over the years. I recommend this book: http://www.systematicproductions.com/mixing-guide.htm

And this one:
http://www.mixingwithyourmind.com/

They're the two best resources ever imho.

Cool, thanks.

hugbot

randomhandclaps said:

I haven't had time to actually watch the videos in full but basically what you are saying is that you recorded a load of stuff into the computer and the computer's do-dah sorted it all out into a song and made it sound good, right?

Yes, I genuinely have been asked something very similar MORE THAN ONCE?

Yeah you just hit the button marked "pro tools" and it pro toolses it.

If you want to get really fancy, use a little trick I like to call "audio exciter on every track then eq in a v shape". simple.

randomhandclaps

Mixing With Your Mind is one of the best books ever - quite probably the best book related to production I've ever read.  I recommend buying it direct though.