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Yes, but what happens when you take it out in the rain?
I really have no bias either way, other than what I feel and what looks nice and of course it's material heritage.
If you can make Plexiglas feel like rosewood that is great, but it's still Plexiglas. A tree just grows, other stuff has to be intensively manufactured. I'm not so worried about the carbon footprint, more the effort involved.
I'm currently making '60's strat fret dots out of flesh coloured Fimo clay. I could have used wood filler I suppose but it only cost me £1.99.
Which tells you just how important the acoustic top is.
It doesn't tell you wood has no effect
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Sometimes you do get a piece of plywood that sounds spot on though eh or a cheap guitar that out performs it price range.
I think the science is a science of probability and that makes sense to me and I like wood and I like trees. With some things that nature has perfected through evolution and trial and error, it seems nonsensical to challenge them with manufactured materials that take a lot of effort and energy to manufacture and are very often inferior in terms of stress/strain tolerance per unit weight or thickness.
The other thing is, most people (who are aware of it) are really good at spotting it in other people. They're normally not as good at spotting it in themselves.
(b) I just meant that he's accusing other people of confirmation bias, but if he's predisposed to think there's no difference he's equally guilty of the confirmation bias. Which gets us nowhere. Which is (more or less) Bulverism.
(c) Yes possibly. I guess I should have used a less black and white example. Ok then, the prosecution in a court case is likely to be biased in favour of a defendent's guilt while the defence is likely to be just as biased in favour of the defendent's innocence. One's correct and one's incorrect and the fact that there's bias involved doesn't really help to determine which.
Same thing here, there are the people who think there's a difference and those who don't, and all that matters is whether there's a difference or not.
(d) If you think something won't make a difference you can think it won't, even if it does (e.g. with pain medication where they tell test subjects that it'll increase their pain, they report increased pain). So pretty much the reverse of the placebo effect (and I realise that nocebo actually means inert stuff which can make you feel worse, I just mean in effect, in this specific case, it's like that).
I should probably also point out that I don't necessarily agree with a lot of the arguments that the people who do think it makes a difference are making either. )
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I have good ears. Hands not so good.
Also lightweight Lindon/Lime/ Tillia vulgaris whatever is shite for Floyd rose posts.
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Well exactly. If you pay for an expensive guitar, you're paying for craftmanship, materials, durability and sound quality, perhaps looks as a consequence. You get what you pay for, at least that's the way I understand it. Makes sense to me.
Athough you are starting to sound a bit like Rocker talking about his mains Hi Fi cables eh.
It's the love, time, planning. knowledge, experience, blood sweat and tears and care you put into it, you get 98% success rates. Same with gardens, same with anything.
Although even a blind cat trips over a rat sometimes.
Admittedly they're all fairly similar, Squier Strat (humbuckered up), Washburn Superstrat and Ibanez JS. Only time I know it's the Squier is because there's no whammy bar going on (it snapped in the block 20 years ago).
All 3 have different body woods and fingerboard woods, but seem to share a common maple neck thing.
Not really sure if I have a point here, but it seems that regardless of the wood used I always sound pretty much the same. I don't change my FX or amp settings between them either, it's always just plug and play.
My JS sounds better than the other 2 acoustically and plays them out of the park, but plugged in the sound is pretty similar (they all have Freds in though, so...)
But what is a "true tone wood"?
It's just a bit of wood that ends up in a guitar that sounds good. If you'd used that same bit of wood but stuffed up the construction the guitar wouldn't sound as good, and you wouldn't claim that it was a true tone wood.
As for the claim that everyone can tell a £200 guitar from a £2k in a double-blind test, citation most definitely needed.
I don't know much about building guitars, but I know a bit about wood. Some wood is shit. I think the point Oct was making was about finessing the soundboard rather than the wood per say anyway. But some wood is still shit all the same.
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The term is useful for determining if a plank of spruce has the right qualities for an acoustic top, but no one would dream of calling all spruce "tonewood". Its a grading within the species, albeit not a consistently defined one.
When you get onto electrics the term is used to describe a whole species, or even group of species. I.e. "mahogany is a tonewood". simply not true. Its a nice marketing term though.
But I still believe wood choice is important, especially as a builder. Has no-one ever had a guitar that sounds terrible, or had a really dominant tonal characteristic, no matter what you change? Maybe I have had more because I have used so many alternative woods over the last 15 years.
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