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but… you are free to think what you want… regardless of how very wrong you are about it all!…
To be fair to @poopot he has been in the clink three times....
November 2018
Not that I am stalking his "cooler episodes"
...and I do think that we, as a collective are largely incapable of debating controversial topics. There are many here who can consider a reasoned critique of their beliefs and evaluate whether the criticisms are valid and if so, factor that into their viewpoint. Equally, there are many here that can only respond with "YOU ****”.
Unfortunately, the ones who respond only with abuse drown out the ones trying to have a grown-up discussion and often manage to drag half the room into the bar-brawl.
The internet is an unusual place in that it brings together people who may otherwise be unlikely to converse. The only thing most of us have in common is what we all play the guitar. But, we have a wide cross-section of people here... Guitar playing professors, guitar playing unemployed, builders, doctors, alcoholics, teachers, drug addicts, homophobes, racists, surgeons, pro and anti Brexit supporters, religious folk, atheists etc etc. Imagine putting that lot together in a pub and making "immigration" the subject of discussion.
Actually..... I think I'll stop here as I've just answered my own question. That's why it never works out. [/epiphany]
Chips are "Plant-based" no matter how you cook them
Donald Trump needs kicking out of a helicopter
I'm personally responsible for all global warming
GET A BLOG
Yup, we don't care for it, so go farting into thunder in your own little corner of the internet.
It doesn't seem controversial because it's been presented respectfully, but if you look at the substance of the debate there are questions about if open relationships always result in a power imbalance, if having them / refusing them is a form of coercive control, the ethics around sex and disability. Hardly "What's your favorite flavour of crisp?".
Part of the reason I think the debate has gone well is because Gassage set the scene correctly without pushing a tabloid agenda. If he'd started with "What's wrong with all you hetro squares being so uptight about a bit of fun", or "What's with all these bloody polyamorous snowflakes" it would have probably descended into a slanging match by page two.
Regarding your thread.
I've just read a book on behaviour which has a big section on unconscious bias how for example a lot of us have different reaction times when considering positive and negative characteristics of the same / other races. I would have really liked to contribute, but I read the OP and thought "That's going to be a shit show" based on how you set the scene and decided to steer clear. I'm sure I'm not the only one who was put off. Words have power, use them carefully, try to use neutral language.
If I'm going to create a controversial thread I'll often try and write the OP in neutral language and then let a few people post before I wade in if I have a more extreme opinion.
@Emp_Fab, I was having a chat with an health care professional and fellow tFBer, someone way more academically qualified than me, about reasoning with people. We agreed that emotion can not be argued with logic, which is what can lead to conflict. We also agreed that there are those that believe an argument is an opportunity to learn, share knowledge, develop understanding and possibly develop personally. The flip side of that is that there are people who look at an argument as a thing to win no matter what logic or evidence is laid before them: it does not matter that quality of the evidence or that the other party's expertise is of a high standard, because it disagrees with their initial statement, they refuse to accept that there may be someone in the world who knows more than them.
Which camp do you believe that you fall in to?
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Riiiight...
I'm just trying to think which hobbies I've no longer any interest in. Maybe I should log back in to that running forum I joined in 2010.
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I agree you can't argue emotion with logic but only the most intransigent would continue to argue in the face of solid logic, and even then they may well be convinced by your argument but their ego will not let them publicly admit defeat.
Chips are "Plant-based" no matter how you cook them
Donald Trump needs kicking out of a helicopter
I'm personally responsible for all global warming