Behold my massive board of pedals

slacker

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Paul_C

slacker

Thanks

Kebabkid

A few pedals off my main board here to make way for a HX Stomp which I plan to wire up and use for my FX but also handy as a backup for Guitar & Bass going to FOH or I may even look into using it with an FRFR when become more au fait with it.



I was able to make a miniboard on a Nano with the spares

stickyfiddle

This is me today. Considering swapping the Ricochet and Deco for HX Stomp (or the new One version), as the latency on the ricochet is just a tiny bit annoying when added to latency from the wireless. But no idea if the HX will actually be better than the Ricochet. I’ll test before doing anything. 

And yes I have 2 tuners because the quick “PT+Strum” is muscle memory at this point and far faster than checking every string separately.

I won’t keep both the JR and Page for dirt, but still trying out different combinations of guitars and pedals at the mo

roberty

I like it @stickyfiddle. Looks well thought out and practical

stickyfiddle

roberty said:

I like it @stickyfiddle. Looks well thought out and practical

Ta. I’m at least 88% happy with it. I mostly need to drop at least 1 gain stage and make a little more room for the XLRs out the top of the Talkbox

I also need to get better at using the talkbox. It’s bloody kanckering when you’re playing and singing BVs AND singing the talkbox stuff. 

Still better than a manky mouth tube though  

roberty

@stickyfiddle I got the Boss VO-1 and it is tricker to use than I anticipated. It's a separate skill besides playing and/or singing. Do you have reverb and trem on your amp?

stickyfiddle

roberty said:

@stickyfiddle I got the Boss VO-1 and it is tricker to use than I anticipated. It's a separate skill besides playing and/or singing. Do you have reverb and trem on your amp?

Yeah, I guess it’s v similar. The main challenge seems to be in making sure my foot is on the pedal when I’m doing the talkbox bits, otherwise all my wooahs end up through the PA..!! 

I do have reverb and trem on the TMDR but rarely use them. I’m going BadCat on this gig, which has reverb but no trem. I’m not a bit modulation guy tbh! 

menamestom

stickyfiddle said:

This is me today. Considering swapping the Ricochet and Deco for HX Stomp (or the new One version), as the latency on the ricochet is just a tiny bit annoying when added to latency from the wireless. But no idea if the HX will actually be better than the Ricochet. I’ll test before doing anything. 

I think I'm going the other way.  Selling my HX Stomp XL to get a few other specialist effects like the Deco.  The Line 6 ADT and Retro reel effects are great, but are they as good as the Deco?

Ultimately sound aside I'm wanting to go for more physical knbs rather than menu's, part of the ever swinging pendulum. 

stickyfiddle

menamestom said:

stickyfiddle said:

This is me today. Considering swapping the Ricochet and Deco for HX Stomp (or the new One version), as the latency on the ricochet is just a tiny bit annoying when added to latency from the wireless. But no idea if the HX will actually be better than the Ricochet. I’ll test before doing anything. 

I think I'm going the other way.  Selling my HX Stomp XL to get a few other specialist effects like the Deco.  The Line 6 ADT and Retro reel effects are great, but are they as good as the Deco?

Ultimately sound aside I'm wanting to go for more physical knbs rather than menu's, part of the ever swinging pendulum. 

Haha that’s very true. 

My only concern at the moment is latency, so I just need to AB the ricochet again the HX for feel and will go with whichever feels better. 

I’m in no mood for any more swaps just for the sake of it!

GavRichList

stickyfiddle said:

menamestom said:

stickyfiddle said:

This is me today. Considering swapping the Ricochet and Deco for HX Stomp (or the new One version), as the latency on the ricochet is just a tiny bit annoying when added to latency from the wireless. But no idea if the HX will actually be better than the Ricochet. I’ll test before doing anything. 

I think I'm going the other way.  Selling my HX Stomp XL to get a few other specialist effects like the Deco.  The Line 6 ADT and Retro reel effects are great, but are they as good as the Deco?

Ultimately sound aside I'm wanting to go for more physical knbs rather than menu's, part of the ever swinging pendulum. 

Haha that’s very true. 

My only concern at the moment is latency, so I just need to AB the ricochet again the HX for feel and will go with whichever feels better. 

I’m in no mood for any more swaps just for the sake of it!

Latency is kinda a whammy's thing. What are you using it for specifically? - there are definitely things that track faster, just don't have the intrinsic whammy character.

I bloody love a whammy. That said, the ricochet got on my tits a bit. A nearly pedal. Could never find a rise and fall setting that felt close to using a treadle. V for me always now. 

stickyfiddle

GavRichList said:

stickyfiddle said:

menamestom said:

stickyfiddle said:

This is me today. Considering swapping the Ricochet and Deco for HX Stomp (or the new One version), as the latency on the ricochet is just a tiny bit annoying when added to latency from the wireless. But no idea if the HX will actually be better than the Ricochet. I’ll test before doing anything. 

I think I'm going the other way.  Selling my HX Stomp XL to get a few other specialist effects like the Deco.  The Line 6 ADT and Retro reel effects are great, but are they as good as the Deco?

Ultimately sound aside I'm wanting to go for more physical knbs rather than menu's, part of the ever swinging pendulum. 

Haha that’s very true. 

My only concern at the moment is latency, so I just need to AB the ricochet again the HX for feel and will go with whichever feels better. 

I’m in no mood for any more swaps just for the sake of it!

Latency is kinda a whammy's thing. What are you using it for specifically? - there are definitely things that track faster, just don't have the intrinsic whammy character.

I bloody love a whammy. That said, the ricochet got on my tits a bit. A nearly pedal. Could never find a rise and fall setting that felt close to using a treadle. V for me always now. 

At the moment I'm using it for dropping to D standard for 2 songs, and adding an upper octave for about 20 seconds in another. The octave thing is fine, but the latency on the D standard is just enough to annoy me when I'm running via wireless (it's fine with a cable). I'll rig up the equivalent stuff via the Stomp tonight and see how it feels. I haven't tried it in ages but I'm hoping the poly pitch will be a fraction quicker and sound good enough for the D standard thing. Then I could also use the 12 string and Deco sounds for a couple of things that would also be nice if they work too. 

I 100% agree the Whammy is awesome overall, just not necessarily 100% the right tool for this job; it's the most obvious tool I have available, but the HX might just be better. 

We'll see! 

GavRichList

stickyfiddle said:

GavRichList said:

stickyfiddle said:

menamestom said:

stickyfiddle said:

This is me today. Considering swapping the Ricochet and Deco for HX Stomp (or the new One version), as the latency on the ricochet is just a tiny bit annoying when added to latency from the wireless. But no idea if the HX will actually be better than the Ricochet. I’ll test before doing anything. 

I think I'm going the other way.  Selling my HX Stomp XL to get a few other specialist effects like the Deco.  The Line 6 ADT and Retro reel effects are great, but are they as good as the Deco?

Ultimately sound aside I'm wanting to go for more physical knbs rather than menu's, part of the ever swinging pendulum. 

Haha that’s very true. 

My only concern at the moment is latency, so I just need to AB the ricochet again the HX for feel and will go with whichever feels better. 

I’m in no mood for any more swaps just for the sake of it!

Latency is kinda a whammy's thing. What are you using it for specifically? - there are definitely things that track faster, just don't have the intrinsic whammy character.

I bloody love a whammy. That said, the ricochet got on my tits a bit. A nearly pedal. Could never find a rise and fall setting that felt close to using a treadle. V for me always now. 

At the moment I'm using it for dropping to D standard for 2 songs, and adding an upper octave for about 20 seconds in another. The octave thing is fine, but the latency on the D standard is just enough to annoy me when I'm running via wireless (it's fine with a cable). I'll rig up the equivalent stuff via the Stomp tonight and see how it feels. I haven't tried it in ages but I'm hoping the poly pitch will be a fraction quicker and sound good enough for the D standard thing. Then I could also use the 12 string and Deco sounds for a couple of things that would also be nice if they work too. 

I 100% agree the Whammy is awesome overall, just not necessarily 100% the right tool for this job; it's the most obvious tool I have available, but the HX might just be better. 

We'll see! 

Have to say that I’m a helix sceptic, but heard the helix version of the whammy in person a couple of weeks ago and it was spot on - had all the digital artefacts and aliasing of the real thing. 

Lebarque

GavRichList said:

stickyfiddle said:

GavRichList said:

stickyfiddle said:

menamestom said:

stickyfiddle said:

This is me today. Considering swapping the Ricochet and Deco for HX Stomp (or the new One version), as the latency on the ricochet is just a tiny bit annoying when added to latency from the wireless. But no idea if the HX will actually be better than the Ricochet. I’ll test before doing anything. 

I think I'm going the other way.  Selling my HX Stomp XL to get a few other specialist effects like the Deco.  The Line 6 ADT and Retro reel effects are great, but are they as good as the Deco?

Ultimately sound aside I'm wanting to go for more physical knbs rather than menu's, part of the ever swinging pendulum. 

Haha that’s very true. 

My only concern at the moment is latency, so I just need to AB the ricochet again the HX for feel and will go with whichever feels better. 

I’m in no mood for any more swaps just for the sake of it!

Latency is kinda a whammy's thing. What are you using it for specifically? - there are definitely things that track faster, just don't have the intrinsic whammy character.

I bloody love a whammy. That said, the ricochet got on my tits a bit. A nearly pedal. Could never find a rise and fall setting that felt close to using a treadle. V for me always now. 

At the moment I'm using it for dropping to D standard for 2 songs, and adding an upper octave for about 20 seconds in another. The octave thing is fine, but the latency on the D standard is just enough to annoy me when I'm running via wireless (it's fine with a cable). I'll rig up the equivalent stuff via the Stomp tonight and see how it feels. I haven't tried it in ages but I'm hoping the poly pitch will be a fraction quicker and sound good enough for the D standard thing. Then I could also use the 12 string and Deco sounds for a couple of things that would also be nice if they work too. 

I 100% agree the Whammy is awesome overall, just not necessarily 100% the right tool for this job; it's the most obvious tool I have available, but the HX might just be better. 

We'll see! 

Have to say that I’m a helix sceptic, but heard the helix version of the whammy in person a couple of weeks ago and it was spot on - had all the digital artefacts and aliasing of the real thing. 

@GavRichList is docked 100 frets for mentioning that heinous word on this thread.

stickyfiddle

Ok, so Poly Pitch in the HX Stomp has at least as much latency as the Ricochet, so the Ricochet stays for now! I'm 99% sure I'll keep the Page on there and JR can go for now, and see how that feels at next rehearsal. 

GavRichList

stickyfiddle said:

Ok, so Poly Pitch in the HX Stomp has at least as much latency as the Ricochet, so the Ricochet stays for now! I'm 99% sure I'll keep the Page on there and JR can go for now, and see how that feels at next rehearsal. 

Pitch forks track pretty well 

stickyfiddle

GavRichList said:

stickyfiddle said:

Ok, so Poly Pitch in the HX Stomp has at least as much latency as the Ricochet, so the Ricochet stays for now! I'm 99% sure I'll keep the Page on there and JR can go for now, and see how that feels at next rehearsal. 

Pitch forks track pretty well 

TBH so does the Ricochet! It's just the combination of a few ms from that plus a few ms from the wireless that makes it feel just the tiniest bit late. It's only 2 songs in a 30 minute set so I'm not gonna worry for now. Any digital pitch shift will have a similar issue anyway. The other option would be to downtime the guitar instead but that's a faff and means a second guitar becomes less useful as backup

TheBigDipper

I've been having a reorg/rethink about my pedalboard, and here's where I am right now. Apologies in advance for the essay. Hope someone finds it interesting... 

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/63gxv8fayhefq529ltdml/Board.JPG?rlkey=wm9k82mlh6mi3x5ds82rdhkcm&raw=1

This is sitting on a Pedaltrain-2. It's my only pedalboard, into the front of a clean pedal platform. Sometimes I get to play into my own Rivera Chubster 40, sometimes I'm told to use the supplied backline (always been a Fender Twin or HotRod, so far, which is fine) and sometimes I go direct (and that's into a clean amp setting on a Simplifier MkII these days). 

Signal path is guitar --> Bright Onion patchbox --> ES-5 input, through the ES-5 and then ES-5 output --> Bright Onion patchbox --> amp input.

The ES-5 loops are fairly standard. Loop 2 is the Ridge, loop 3 is the RD Compact, loop 4 is the Mobius (in mono). The Core is where things get a little interesting. I'm using it purely for FX and not using the amps and cabs. I've got loop 1 set up to go into the Core input and returning from an SR send. Loop 5 is going into the Core using the same SR, (but the return, obv.) and returning from the Core output (in mono). 

That gives me two "virtual" MFXs on the Core, plus an empty SR loop if I need to add something extra. So, on loop 5 I'm often running a reverb, delay or both (in parallel), plus EQ. I'm running my drive pedals at unity gain and using the dB boost on the EQ to raise the volume at the end of the chain, if needed. I've got a nice John McGeogh preset where the flanger is in loop 1, positioned in front of the overdrives, and the rest is in loop 5. 

Underneath, I'm using a CIOKS DC7 for power, with a GigRig Distributor for the analogue pedals that don't need to be isolated. The Ridge, Mobius and Core are all controlled using MIDI, and there's a Kenton MIDI-5 underneath as well so I don't have any MIDI daisychaining going on.

When performing, I'm generally singing and playing, so changing presets using the ES-5 buttons is prone to error, and I certainly couldn't tapdance to get things done. I can't move my mouth away from the mic to look down. So, after seeing Johnny Marr show it on a YT vid from a few years ago (when he was using a GT-100), I've got an FS-6 footswitch close by that I can hit far more predictably. I've also got all the buttons set to activate on release, not press, so I can find the button early, hold it until I need it and then let go in time with the music. The Mobius, Ridge and Core all load their presets seemingly instantly, which is nice. I'm not currently using any expression pedals in performance. But I intend to. 

The FS-6 is using the CTL 1/2 input on the ES-5. One button selects the next preset and the other selects the previous one. I have one or two presets per song, in setlist order, so I'll start the song on the verse preset, select "next" for the chorus, select "prev" for the verse, etc. It means I don't "play" the pedalboard at all, just the FS-6. That means I can site the board away from the mic stand if there's a lack of space (and when isn't there?). 

Heartfeltdawn

^^
Nice. I really do need to get a GT-1000 Core.