The Football Thread.

RaymondLin

GuyBoden said:

RaymondLin said:

Nobody will care about how they played as long as they win.  Southgate will get knight and Kane will be an OBE.

Kane should be dropped from the final. He looks slow, probably injured.

He should be dropped but Southgate won't do that, he is still playing Trippier as left wing back.  Because he is the Captain...if they win, he will get the credit and an OBE.

guitars4you

Maybe a bit of revenge last night for England and that debatable penalty for Kane  - When you go back to 1994 and Koeman's involvement with a 2-0 Dutch win and that 'penalty + red card' v David Platt - 2 wrongs don't or shouldn't make a right but maybe what goes around comes around 

JezWynd

Caught the second half. It was notable that for most of the time that England had possession the game moved at a crawl with the backs tapping the ball back and forth across the pitch while they probed the (effective) Dutch defence. While on the few occasions the Dutch gained possession the game tempo upped markedly as they surged forward. Whatever, the last minute goal was a beautiful strike that almost wiped from memory England's very average second half performance.

Lestratcaster

First half was good, Foden moving inside and getting the ball and turning was what we see him do a City. The Dutch sussed this and switched their formation in the 2nd and it was back to the same old passing sideways 'safe' football. 

The two subs combined for the goal so credit to Southgate for bringing them on but I wish he'd make subs a lot earlier. 

Spain will be a different test as they play better football, their two wingers will give England's full back a hard time. 

p90fool

RaymondLin said:

Nobody will care about how they played as long as they win.  Southgate will get knight and Kane will be an OBE.

My wife and I have been calling Kane "Sir Harry" for years, and only half jokingly as it has an inevitability about it. 

tony99

guitars4you said:

Maybe a bit of revenge last night for England and that debatable penalty for Kane  - When you go back to 1994 and Koeman's involvement with a 2-0 Dutch win and that 'penalty + red card' v David Platt - 2 wrongs don't or shouldn't make a right but maybe what goes around comes around 

That was 1993, and there was no red card

guitars4you

tony99 said:

guitars4you said:

Maybe a bit of revenge last night for England and that debatable penalty for Kane  - When you go back to 1994 and Koeman's involvement with a 2-0 Dutch win and that 'penalty + red card' v David Platt - 2 wrongs don't or shouldn't make a right but maybe what goes around comes around 

That was 1993, and there was no red card

I thought it was 1994 - But you are right it was 1993 and it cost us a place in the 94 WC - But it should have been a red card - That was my point hence my use of inverted commas - It probably was a penalty but no var then so debatable but no debate on the red card - And only a few mins later Koeman scores the winning goal from a free kick 

Nitefly

p90fool said:

RaymondLin said:

Nobody will care about how they played as long as they win.  Southgate will get knight and Kane will be an OBE.

My wife and I have been calling Kane "Sir Harry" for years, and only half jokingly as it has an inevitability about it. 

From my son last night:  "Harry Kane has been standing still for so long that Easter Islanders have started worshipping him"...

EricTheWeary

Just noticed that Madness have a gig on Sunday and are playing their set early so the whole crowd can watch the match on the screen together. There's a tribute act festival thing near me on Sunday that they are now going to finish all the bands by 8pm and have a giant screen up for the fans. 
I'm sure lots of these type of things happening, adding to the sense of historical occasion. 
Can I also point out that England won the world cup following a landslide election for Labour? No, I'll keep that thought to myself then. 

Edit: branches of Tesco Express to close early on Sunday so staff can watch the match. Again, must be loads of these examples. Sat at home watching the matches with the dog I feel I am missing out on the sense of occasion and should be watching it in a field somewhere. Perhaps I’ll stand in the front garden and watch the TV through the window. 

Deadman

EricTheWeary said:

Can I also point out that England won the world cup following a landslide election for Labour?

I used to like you.

guitars4you

If (can't make it any bigger than that, so it stays as if) we win, should Monday be a bank holiday - It doesn't make any difference to me (the bank holiday that is) if we win - I won't be drinking enough that I need a day off - I won't be driving  around town all night pipping my horn - I'll be glad if we win but I don't need a day of work to celebrate

Philly_Q

guitars4you said:

If (can't make it any bigger than that, so it stays as if) we win, should Monday be a bank holiday - It doesn't make any difference to me (the bank holiday that is) if we win - I won't be drinking enough that I need a day off - I won't be driving  around town all night pipping my horn - I'll be glad if we win but I don't need a day of work to celebrate

Not this Monday, it's too short notice.  A lot of people will be taking the day off anyway, win or lose - be that holiday, off sick, or WFH.  But maybe there should be an extra bank holiday in due course.

Reverend

When do the Euros start again? couldn't find any info online about it.

sev112

guitars4you said:

Maybe a bit of revenge last night for England and that debatable penalty for Kane  - When you go back to 1994 and Koeman's involvement with a 2-0 Dutch win and that 'penalty + red card' v David Platt - 2 wrongs don't or shouldn't make a right but maybe what goes around comes around 

sev112

sev112 said:

guitars4you said:

Maybe a bit of revenge last night for England and that debatable penalty for Kane  - When you go back to 1994 and Koeman's involvement with a 2-0 Dutch win and that 'penalty + red card' v David Platt - 2 wrongs don't or shouldn't make a right but maybe what goes around comes around 

Well said. Koeman should not have been on the pitch 
To score that second goal!  A bit of commupance methinks 

Kittyfrisk

Imagine the vocal delivery yourself for maximum effect

swiller

enjoying the 1966 WC final on channel 4.

Emp_Fab

Vuelve a casa, vuelve a casa, ya viene, el fútbol vuelve a casa!

thecolourbox

Looking forward to the final, technically on my self imposed rules I should support England but I also allow myself the veto if England become the team I have to follow. I think I shall abstain from supporting either side and just hope to see a good competitive match, and hopefully an entertaining one. 

Emp_Fab

I'll watch the match but from this moment on, no matter what I do, England will lose....