IK Multimedia TONEX Pedal

roberty

That little thing is making my stack of tube amps look a bit silly tbh, especially at the price. There's a fine line between hobby and madness

Bats_

willo said:

Hi - if I wanted a live set up of:

Overdrive pedals > Tonex > Modulation pedals > Seymour Duncan powerstage 200

Would there be any way to easily connect this to my laptop for recording? The powerstage has a DI output - could this be plugged into an interface that has a DI input?

Otherwise I don't see a way to record any post-Tonex pedals directly into the laptop?

Get yourself a DI box or IR loader. Put this at the end of your chain and run straight in to your interface. 

You don't need the SD for recording. 

fnpt

I've never had such immediate great tones without tweaking anything, just adjusting the volume or tone control in my Tele to clean up or when the capture is too bright. It's really that great.

My only gripe is the lack of an fx loop which would make my life so much easier - dirt pedals into the tonex, delay/ mod pedals into the loop and USB out of the Tonex into my DAW and stereo out into my monitors.

As it is, I have to put the delay/ mod in the front of the Tonex which really messes up the sound in the higher gain captures.

The alternative would be to put the delay/ mod pedals after the Tonex but that would mean going into my scarlett interface and that ads latency and means that I need a PC at all times (not ideal for a quick playing).

Jota

fnpt said:

I've never had such immediate great tones without tweaking anything, just adjusting the volume or tone control in my Tele to clean up or when the capture is too bright. It's really that great.

My only gripe is the lack of an fx loop which would make my life so much easier - dirt pedals into the tonex, delay/ mod pedals into the loop and USB out of the Tonex into my DAW and stereo out into my monitors.

As it is, I have to put the delay/ mod in the front of the Tonex which really messes up the sound in the higher gain captures.

The alternative would be to put the delay/ mod pedals after the Tonex but that would mean going into my scarlett interface and that ads latency and means that I need a PC at all times (not ideal for a quick playing).

Get an HX Stomp. Put it in the Loop and you're done.

fnpt

Jota said:

fnpt said:

I've never had such immediate great tones without tweaking anything, just adjusting the volume or tone control in my Tele to clean up or when the capture is too bright. It's really that great.

My only gripe is the lack of an fx loop which would make my life so much easier - dirt pedals into the tonex, delay/ mod pedals into the loop and USB out of the Tonex into my DAW and stereo out into my monitors.

As it is, I have to put the delay/ mod in the front of the Tonex which really messes up the sound in the higher gain captures.

The alternative would be to put the delay/ mod pedals after the Tonex but that would mean going into my scarlett interface and that ads latency and means that I need a PC at all times (not ideal for a quick playing).

Get an HX Stomp. Put it in the Loop and you're done.

Yes, my thoughts exactly. Or the GT1000 core which I believe will ad much less latency. But that, plus an expression pedal, means that the overall cost will put me almost in Kemper stage territory.

willo

Bats_ said:

Get yourself a DI box or IR loader. Put this at the end of your chain and run straight in to your interface. 

You don't need the SD for recording. 

Excellent - thank you

fnpt

I’ve bit the bullet - gt1000core on its way + exp pedal. You only live once. And I’ve had some nice red wine. That may have had something to do with it.

roberty

fnpt said:

I’ve bit the bullet - gt1000core on its way + exp pedal. You only live once. And I’ve had some nice red wine. That may have had something to do with it.

That's the way to do it

Fortheloveofguitar

I’ve just ordered one of these today, arriving tomorrow

I had a QC but didn’t use half the features and at £1650 I couldn’t justify keeping it. 

The ToneX has only cost me £379 so if I can get what I want from it at that price I’ll be very pleased. 

kennedydream1980

Fortheloveofguitar said:

I’ve just ordered one of these today, arriving tomorrow

I had a QC but didn’t use half the features and at £1650 I couldn’t justify keeping it. 

The ToneX has only cost me £379 so if I can get what I want from it at that price I’ll be very pleased. 

Checkout the captures from Amalgam Audio. For me they are in a different league. 

https://www.amalgamcaptures.com/tonex

Fortheloveofguitar

kennedydream1980 said:

Fortheloveofguitar said:

I’ve just ordered one of these today, arriving tomorrow

I had a QC but didn’t use half the features and at £1650 I couldn’t justify keeping it. 

The ToneX has only cost me £379 so if I can get what I want from it at that price I’ll be very pleased. 

Checkout the captures from Amalgam Audio. For me they are in a different league. 

https://www.amalgamcaptures.com/tonex

Ooh thanks. I’ll check those out

champ222

Ok, so ive been tempted by this. I just play at home (occasionally at the moment) I have an egnater Rebel 30 and and orange 2x12. and a bunch of pedals on a board. I dont gig or anything. Ive been tempted by the quad cortex, but couldnt justify the price. 

This could be cool to replace the amp and cab on a desk. Id have a desk and speakers anyway, but how much does one need to spend on some monitors to make this sound convincing in the room? In the Andertons video where they compared a real amp against Tonex, QC, and kemper, and they were raving about their Genelecs, but they are £800 EACH i think.

Could i run this though some hifi speakers and be done with it? i wouldnt need "monitors" for anything else as i dont do any recording. I'd use the speakers for listening to music and gaming, so they just need to sound nice, not be "studio monitors" as such.

Thanks

kennedydream1980

champ222 said:

Ok, so ive been tempted by this. I just play at home (occasionally at the moment) I have an egnater Rebel 30 and and orange 2x12. and a bunch of pedals on a board. I dont gig or anything. Ive been tempted by the quad cortex, but couldnt justify the price. 

This could be cool to replace the amp and cab on a desk. Id have a desk and speakers anyway, but how much does one need to spend on some monitors to make this sound convincing in the room? In the Andertons video where they compared a real amp against Tonex, QC, and kemper, and they were raving about their Genelecs, but they are £800 EACH i think.

Could i run this though some hifi speakers and be done with it? i wouldnt need "monitors" for anything else as i dont do any recording. I'd use the speakers for listening to music and gaming, so they just need to sound nice, not be "studio monitors" as such.

Thanks

You don't need to spend a whole lot to get nice sounding monitors. 

The Presonus Eris e3.5's sound excellent and a relatively affordable.

https://www.andertons.co.uk/presonus-eris-e35-active-studio-monitors-boxed-as-a-pair?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces&gclid=CjwKCAjwm4ukBhAuEiwA0zQxk8EgvYTj92r5uEAaiXWgosIleNCyr4i46EonAc1y4ayLO5_AWeVsGxoCVI0QAvD_BwE

champ222

Ill check that out. Thanks

Fortheloveofguitar

It’s arrived! 

Straight out of the box I’ve disabled the preset cab sims globally  as I run through a power amp and cab. 

I’ll be honest in that they sound really poor. I’m hoping some third party captures will be much better. 

Wazmeister

champ222 said:

Ok, so ive been tempted by this. I just play at home (occasionally at the moment) I have an egnater Rebel 30 and and orange 2x12. and a bunch of pedals on a board. I dont gig or anything. Ive been tempted by the quad cortex, but couldnt justify the price. 

This could be cool to replace the amp and cab on a desk. Id have a desk and speakers anyway, but how much does one need to spend on some monitors to make this sound convincing in the room? In the Andertons video where they compared a real amp against Tonex, QC, and kemper, and they were raving about their Genelecs, but they are £800 EACH i think.

Could i run this though some hifi speakers and be done with it? i wouldnt need "monitors" for anything else as i dont do any recording. I'd use the speakers for listening to music and gaming, so they just need to sound nice, not be "studio monitors" as such.

Thanks

The Genelecs are amazing though, but the 8010s are pretty cheap

kennedydream1980

Fortheloveofguitar said:

It’s arrived! 

Straight out of the box I’ve disabled the preset cab sims globally  as I run through a power amp and cab. 

I’ll be honest in that they sound really poor. I’m hoping some third party captures will be much better. 

I think most of the presets on the pedal have the cabs baked into the captures. Meaning the amp and cab were captured together. I think the general opinion is that these don't fare well when you disable the cab part of the capture.

You need to get some DI profiles which are captures of just the amp (No cab). 

Fortheloveofguitar

kennedydream1980 said:

Fortheloveofguitar said:

It’s arrived! 

Straight out of the box I’ve disabled the preset cab sims globally  as I run through a power amp and cab. 

I’ll be honest in that they sound really poor. I’m hoping some third party captures will be much better. 

I think most of the presets on the pedal have the cabs baked into the captures. Meaning the amp and cab were captured together. I think the general opinion is that these don't fare well when you disable the cab part of the capture.

You need to get some DI profiles which are captures of just the amp (No cab). 

That’ll explain it then. I assumed that they had DI’d then added a cab. 

Currently looking at that link you sent me. Think I’ll get some Plexi captures and load them
in tomorrow morning 

Fortheloveofguitar

Right I’ve bought the Plexi pack from Amalgam and it’s like night and day now. These are really really good captures. They sound great through a power amp and cab setup. 

It’s a shame as he doesn’t have any high gain amps on there. I’ve tried free samples from other providers but again they’re really poor yet charging money for them 

kennedydream1980

Fortheloveofguitar said:

Right I’ve bought the Plexi pack from Amalgam and it’s like night and day now. These are really really good captures. They sound great through a power amp and cab setup. 

It’s a shame as he doesn’t have any high gain amps on there. I’ve tried free samples from other providers but again they’re really poor yet charging money for them 

He has the Mesa MkV.