One reason why we may be getting fat (Granola- wtf?!)

Gassage

Grunfeld said:

Gassage said:

When I broke my ulna in 4 places, Andrew Sankey, my surgeon, was determined not to plate due to a) my cricket and needing to pronate my forearm to spin a ball, and b) guitar - same reason.  

If you got your full range of movement back though it sounds like it was worth it.

Ironically more than I had before due to very aggressive physio work.

Axe_meister

TheMarlin said:

Fat doesn't make you fat.  Sugar makes you fat.  Low fat diets, make you fatter, as they're MUCH higher in sugar.  All the bad things you read about natural fats and butter/cream are nonsense, all based on 'research' done by the sugar companies, so you eat more sugar, and less fat.  Hydrogenated fats are still very harmful, look into good fats (oilve oil, ghee, butter, coconut oil).

It's actually the combination of fat and sugar that makes us eat more of both.

There was a great program on TV resiliently. They took two twins (both happened to be doctors).

One was on a high sugar and carb diet with very little protein and fat.

The other on a high protein and fat with little or no sugar and carbs.

Both hardly put on any weight but had very different characteristics when it came to overall fitness and energy levels.

In the same program they did an experiment. Take bowl full of sugar and try to eat it. You don't get very far. As your body says no.

Take a bowl full of cream and try to eat it. Again your body quickly stops you from doing so.

Now mix the sugar in with the cream, and you could probably gobble the lot.

What happens is that in nature you don't actually get a mix of sugar and fat so the body has no protection mechanism to make you stop.

TheMarlin

The bodys response to sugar is to release insulin.  if you're not mid marathon, you're unlikely to burn off all the sugar your're consuming (from say, a few pints of beer), the insulin continues to be release.  As it can't use the sugar, it stores it as fat.  That's how the body stores fat.  The body finds it much harder to store fat from food sources.

Marlin

menamestom said:

TheMarlin said:

Phil_aka_Pip said:

EoT, BoT, BB & quorn burger for me.

@Phil_aka_Pip

Quorn is a mould grown on a slurry of chemicals. It's not a mushroom as they used to state in the advertising (note, now labelled a 'micro protein' instead of mushroom protein)  

A lot of people have violent allergic reaction to it.  It has almost no nutritional benefit, and it's entirely artificial.  It's derive from a mould found in soil.

I've been a vegetarian for 30 years, and I wont allow that crap anywhere near the house.

Marlin

I wouldn't say it has no nutritional benefit, since it has a decent amount of protein.  With regards to the allergic reactions, I can't see that being a problem if you have no reaction.  Some people die if they eat nuts but it does not mean it's not a good food for me.

I'd say being processed you'd not want to eat too much quorn but you have to get protein from somewhere, pulses and beans etc are fine but there's only so much you can eat. 

Out of interest how come you are on a diet and need to lose weight, there must be some crap that gets into your house otherwise you would not need to be on a diet.  I'm not having a go btw, just wandering what it is that put the weight on you when you think Quorn is so bad? 

I'll read a bit more on the Quorn, we eat a fair bit and I'm not adverse to replacing it, should it be so bad.

 

 

TheMarlin

menamestom said:

TheMarlin said:

Phil_aka_Pip said:

EoT, BoT, BB & quorn burger for me.

@Phil_aka_Pip

Quorn is a mould grown on a slurry of chemicals. It's not a mushroom as they used to state in the advertising (note, now labelled a 'micro protein' instead of mushroom protein)  

A lot of people have violent allergic reaction to it.  It has almost no nutritional benefit, and it's entirely artificial.  It's derive from a mould found in soil.

I've been a vegetarian for 30 years, and I wont allow that crap anywhere near the house.

Marlin

I wouldn't say it has no nutritional benefit, since it has a decent amount of protein.  With regards to the allergic reactions, I can't see that being a problem if you have no reaction.  Some people die if they eat nuts but it does not mean it's not a good food for me.

I'd say being processed you'd not want to eat too much quorn but you have to get protein from somewhere, pulses and beans etc are fine but there's only so much you can eat. 

Out of interest how come you are on a diet and need to lose weight, there must be some crap that gets into your house otherwise you would not need to be on a diet.  I'm not having a go btw, just wandering what it is that put the weight on you when you think Quorn is so bad? 

I'll read a bit more on the Quorn, we eat a fair bit and I'm not adverse to replacing it, should it be so bad.

 

 

I lost my job, got a bit down in the dumps.  Daytime TV is not only crap, it's no good for the waistline.  There is onlu so much Top Gear one man can watch.

I set my own company up, so got over it.  Now loosing the weight I put on while sat on my rear.  Wasn't much.

Marlin

chillidoggy

So, here's a photo of an 'Appetizer' I ordered in Key West. I kid you not, it was listed on the menu as such.

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee189/chillidoggy/2014-09-28174948_zpsd2d48acd.jpg

And I only managed to eat about a quarter of it. Gave up on a main course.

joneve

Looks about the right size to me. Looks fucking awesome too. 

chillidoggy

The thing in the background (not the Mrs.) is some kind of fish paste ball, about the size of a grapefruit which came with it.

Gassage

@themarlin Re insulin, sugar, lactic acid and exercise, have you come across using Sodium Bicarbonate as a blood buffer to increase athletic endurance!? We use it in rugby although it's now held that it only works for direct bloodstream lactic build up rather than tissue lactic build up. It does give you the shits though

menamestom

TheMarlin said:

 

 

I lost my job, got a bit down in the dumps.  Daytime TV is not only crap, it's no good for the waistline.  There is onlu so much Top Gear one man can watch.

I set my own company up, so got over it.  Now loosing the weight I put on while sat on my rear.  Wasn't much.

Marlin

Good on you then, hope all goes well with the business Marlin

 

VimFuego

Gassage said:

@themarlin Re insulin, sugar, lactic acid and exercise, have you come across using Sodium Bicarbonate as a blood buffer to increase athletic endurance!? We use it in rugby although it's now held that it only works for direct bloodstream lactic build up rather than tissue lactic build up. It does give you the shits though

that could be unpleasant for the second row, the front row push a bit hard and forget to squeeze.

Gassage

I'm not bothered- I am an openside flanker- my job is to pretend to push as convincingly as possible whilst the prop moans he's being stuffed cos I'm watching the half backs....