The F1 thread

sinbaadi

Perez has never been signed because he's fast.  

He has typically been able to do a decent enough job which has meant that teams would clamour for his huge Mexican sponsorship fund.

If he ever loses that, it will be an instant bye bye and thank you for your custom.

If he just starts to be a bit shit then for RBR it's purely a numbers thing.  If it costs them nothing and they still win it all, then keep the cash rolling in.

It's certainly not about whether anyone else could do a better job.  Literally 90% of the field and probably 80% of the F2 field could do a better job.  

fretmeister

stickyfiddle said:

fretmeister said:

You may well be right.

My previous thoughts of Lando being a LH/MV level driver driving beyond the ability of the car have been downgraded in light of Piastri's excellent performance this week pretty much matching Lando. So I can't really view that as why DR was so slow at McLaren.

Maybe he just needs a different environment? You know far better than me that at that level 1% of anything makes a massive difference.

I like him. I really hope he's fast and that he surprises some people.

Following Oscar through the junior series suggests he's got serious leader/winner/champion potential. 

My read on DR vs Lando was just a shite car and DR is a Button/Rosberg level guy, while Mando has potential to be there with Lewis & Max. I may be wrong, obv but I'm looking forward to finding out!

Mando!!!

After turning up in a beska... I mean chrome lid last week he deserves that!

fretmeister

Interesting - Planet F1 (I know - I know) are reporting that DR's best lap in the RedBull today would have put him on the front row.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/daniel-ricciardo-silverstone-test-best-lap-report/

No mention of the actual tyres used, or track limits mind you!

stickyfiddle

fretmeister said:

stickyfiddle said:

fretmeister said:

You may well be right.

My previous thoughts of Lando being a LH/MV level driver driving beyond the ability of the car have been downgraded in light of Piastri's excellent performance this week pretty much matching Lando. So I can't really view that as why DR was so slow at McLaren.

Maybe he just needs a different environment? You know far better than me that at that level 1% of anything makes a massive difference.

I like him. I really hope he's fast and that he surprises some people.

Following Oscar through the junior series suggests he's got serious leader/winner/champion potential. 

My read on DR vs Lando was just a shite car and DR is a Button/Rosberg level guy, while Mando has potential to be there with Lewis & Max. I may be wrong, obv but I'm looking forward to finding out!

Mando!!!

After turning up in a beska... I mean chrome lid last week he deserves that!

This is the way! 

skullfunkerry

stickyfiddle said:

fretmeister said:

stickyfiddle said:

fretmeister said:

You may well be right.

My previous thoughts of Lando being a LH/MV level driver driving beyond the ability of the car have been downgraded in light of Piastri's excellent performance this week pretty much matching Lando. So I can't really view that as why DR was so slow at McLaren.

Maybe he just needs a different environment? You know far better than me that at that level 1% of anything makes a massive difference.

I like him. I really hope he's fast and that he surprises some people.

Following Oscar through the junior series suggests he's got serious leader/winner/champion potential. 

My read on DR vs Lando was just a shite car and DR is a Button/Rosberg level guy, while Mando has potential to be there with Lewis & Max. I may be wrong, obv but I'm looking forward to finding out!

Mando!!!

After turning up in a beska... I mean chrome lid last week he deserves that!

This is the way! 

Thanks to one of Katee Sackhoff's Instagram posts, I literally can't hear that now without wanting to reply "and so say all of us"

Cols

Apparently the Red Bull staff were quite shocked the first time they put Ricciardo in the simulator after he came back from McLaren, and not in a good way.  Something had changed in the time in between, and the question was whether it was permanent or reversible.

Hopefully we’ll get to find out in Hungary.  De Vries has been quite unfortunate in that this year’s Alpha Tauri is an evil bastard of a car, which is absolutely what you don’t want as an F1 rookie.  A relatively benign car would have given more confidence for him to push without overdriving.  

chillidoggy

I reckon all the the hoo-hah about DR will be a flash in the pan. That said, I hope this isn't the case. But you can't win races just by smiling a lot and being a nice guy, ably demonstrated by Max, who does neither.

fretmeister

He needs to absolutely slaughter Yuki in a way that makes even Marko feel sorry for him.

Anything less and it's game over at the end of the season. 

I don't think this is much about beating anyone else because the car is so bloody awful.

fretmeister

skullfunkerry said:

stickyfiddle said:

fretmeister said:

stickyfiddle said:

fretmeister said:

You may well be right.

My previous thoughts of Lando being a LH/MV level driver driving beyond the ability of the car have been downgraded in light of Piastri's excellent performance this week pretty much matching Lando. So I can't really view that as why DR was so slow at McLaren.

Maybe he just needs a different environment? You know far better than me that at that level 1% of anything makes a massive difference.

I like him. I really hope he's fast and that he surprises some people.

Following Oscar through the junior series suggests he's got serious leader/winner/champion potential. 

My read on DR vs Lando was just a shite car and DR is a Button/Rosberg level guy, while Mando has potential to be there with Lewis & Max. I may be wrong, obv but I'm looking forward to finding out!

Mando!!!

After turning up in a beska... I mean chrome lid last week he deserves that!

This is the way! 

Thanks to one of Katee Sackhoff's Instagram posts, I literally can't hear that now without wanting to reply "and so say all of us"

"So say we all" surely?

Cols

Unconfirmed reports that Ricciardo’s fastest lap at the tyre test would have put him “on the front row of the grid” at last week’s Grand Prix.  That means he was within 0.2s of Verstappen’s time… or faster.

Now, tyres and conditions may have been different.  In any case, it was enough to make Whinger Spice immediately pick up the phone to Helmut Marko. 

RiftAmps

Cols said:

Unconfirmed reports that Ricciardo’s fastest lap at the tyre test would have put him “on the front row of the grid” at last week’s Grand Prix.  That means he was within 0.2s of Verstappen’s time… or faster.

Now, tyres and conditions may have been different.  In any case, it was enough to make Whinger Spice immediately pick up the phone to Helmut Marko. 

F1.COM reporting that the deal was done before the test, over the GP weekend.

stickyfiddle

Oh Checo... 4 minutes into FP1....

fretmeister

He is not doing himself any favours!

stickyfiddle

Admitedly it's really wet, but still.. not a good look is it?!

RandallFlagg

chillidoggy said:

I reckon all the the hoo-hah about DR will be a flash in the pan. That said, I hope this isn't the case. But you can't win races just by smiling a lot and being a nice guy, ably demonstrated by Max, who does neither.

I never had Ricciardo down as a particularly nice guy, he seems to be a bit of a helmet in love with what he sees in the mirror and the smell of his own farts.

stickyfiddle

RandallFlagg said:

chillidoggy said:

I reckon all the the hoo-hah about DR will be a flash in the pan. That said, I hope this isn't the case. But you can't win races just by smiling a lot and being a nice guy, ably demonstrated by Max, who does neither.

I never had Ricciardo down as a particularly nice guy, he seems to be a bit of a helmet in love with what he sees in the mirror and the smell of his own farts.

Sooo... a racing driver?

RandallFlagg

stickyfiddle said:

RandallFlagg said:

chillidoggy said:

I reckon all the the hoo-hah about DR will be a flash in the pan. That said, I hope this isn't the case. But you can't win races just by smiling a lot and being a nice guy, ably demonstrated by Max, who does neither.

I never had Ricciardo down as a particularly nice guy, he seems to be a bit of a helmet in love with what he sees in the mirror and the smell of his own farts.

Sooo... a racing driver?

Yep, like an Aussie cricketer

menamestom

stickyfiddle said:

Admitedly it's really wet, but still.. not a good look is it?!

Was it wet at the start?   He got tyres on the grass I think, looked like he just got it wrong.

stickyfiddle

menamestom said:

stickyfiddle said:

Admitedly it's really wet, but still.. not a good look is it?!

Was it wet at the start?   He got tyres on the grass I think, looked like he just got it wrong.

Yeah, actually this was before it started raining - your'e right! Quite a big impact from a tiny mistake really. 

Still funny. Sorry Checo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgJpeigaydM

menamestom

Yeah it's a poor error, no doubt feeling the pressure.  If anybody ever needed a good qualifying session tomorrow......