Chappers for the Pumpkins

EricTheWeary

So did we conclude is Chapper plant based or not? 

UnclePsychosis

I'd be amazed if its anyone high profile. Its not Billy's style. 

Out of all the members of the Pumpkins over the years (and there have been a lot) the people who had the highest profile prior to joining the band were probably Tommy Lee (who played drums with them for about five minutes) and the bass player from The Killers (who, again, played with them for about fifteen minutes and who is so high profile I sadly can't even remember his name). Oh, and Melissa Auf Der Maur but when she joined the band I'm not sure you could claim that "the bass player in Hole" was a high profile gig. 

Strongly suspect that the new guitarist will either be a complete unknown, or someone from a band that people have heard of without knowing who the musicians are. 

Philly_Q

UnclePsychosis said:

Strongly suspect that the new guitarist will either be a complete unknown, or someone from a band that people have heard of without knowing who the musicians are. 

That's most bands nowadays, for me.  I could name every member of the bands I've listened to since I was a kid, but all the new bands I've got into in the last decade or so, I could only name a handful of people.  I guess it's the absence of album covers or CD booklets to stare at.

Offset

Philly_Q said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Strongly suspect that the new guitarist will either be a complete unknown, or someone from a band that people have heard of without knowing who the musicians are. 

That's most bands nowadays, for me.  I could name every member of the bands I've listened to since I was a kid, but all the new bands I've got into in the last decade or so, I could only name a handful of people.  I guess it's the absence of album covers or CD booklets to stare at.

This 110%.  But could just be age and an inability to retain names even though you knew them at some point...

PLOP

Offset said:

Philly_Q said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Strongly suspect that the new guitarist will either be a complete unknown, or someone from a band that people have heard of without knowing who the musicians are. 

That's most bands nowadays, for me.  I could name every member of the bands I've listened to since I was a kid, but all the new bands I've got into in the last decade or so, I could only name a handful of people.  I guess it's the absence of album covers or CD booklets to stare at.

This 110%.  But could just be age and an inability to retain names even though you knew them at some point...

I know the names of a few guitarists or singers from bands I like mainly because I see them interviewed/putting videos out/general chat but I don’t make an effort to learn them. I could probably name single digits of bass players and drummers, probably 20ish guitarist or singers.
 

Philly_Q

Offset said:

Philly_Q said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Strongly suspect that the new guitarist will either be a complete unknown, or someone from a band that people have heard of without knowing who the musicians are. 

That's most bands nowadays, for me.  I could name every member of the bands I've listened to since I was a kid, but all the new bands I've got into in the last decade or so, I could only name a handful of people.  I guess it's the absence of album covers or CD booklets to stare at.

This 110%.  But could just be age and an inability to retain names even though you knew them at some point...

I think perhaps our memory's ability to store new information declines a bit, but I still manage to take in quite a lot from the news, films, books etc... and stuff in work.  The things I knew 10, 20, 30 years ago are (mostly) still all there, and I'm still good at pub quizzes!  I do have those moments where a name refuses to spring to mind, but it comes back to me later.

The band members thing is weird, though.  It's definitely partly down to not seeing physical media like LP and CD covers, not reading music and guitar mags any more.  But maybe on a subconscious level I'm not as interested in those details as I used to be - I think I want to remember them, but my memory refuses to play.

prlgmnr

Paul_C said:

https://imgur.com/gallery/LlmQwhA

one of mankind's greatest achievements

Sporky

UnclePsychosis said:

Oh, and Melissa Auf Der Maur but when she joined the band I'm not sure you could claim that "the bass player in Hole" was a high profile gig. 

I did wonder if her tenure was short because she utterly upstaged Billy live. 

Philly_Q

Sporky said:

UnclePsychosis said:

Oh, and Melissa Auf Der Maur but when she joined the band I'm not sure you could claim that "the bass player in Hole" was a high profile gig. 

I did wonder if her tenure was short because she utterly upstaged Billy live. 

I didn't know that.  I'm fairly sure I bought her first solo album, although I have absolutely no recall of what it sounded like.

Sporky

I saw them in Atlanta on the Machina tour. Billy had a black leather dress thing on, but looked like a meek vicar-turned-shopkeeper next to Melissa.

I liked her albums. Not perfect but some really good stuff in there. 

UnclePsychosis

Sporky said:

I liked her albums. Not perfect but some really good stuff in there. 

Ditto. Need to give them a spin again, actually. 

TeleMaster

I know that Melissa wasn't in Hole then but Live Through This is a great album and there's lots of great stuff on Celebrity Skin too. 

Svartmetall

TeleMaster said:

I know that Melissa wasn't in Hole then but Live Through This is a great album and there's lots of great stuff on Celebrity Skin too. 

I always found it really frustrating that all the hype and bullshit around Love got in the way of what was actually a really good band; 'Malibu' is one hell of a song, likewise 'Doll Parts' (a personal fave) and 'Celebrity Skin'. 

UnclePsychosis

Svartmetall said:

TeleMaster said:

I know that Melissa wasn't in Hole then but Live Through This is a great album and there's lots of great stuff on Celebrity Skin too. 

I always found it really frustrating that all the hype and bullshit around Love got in the way of what was actually a really good band; 'Malibu' is one hell of a song, likewise 'Doll Parts' (a personal fave) and 'Celebrity Skin'. 

Violet was always my favourite. 

DrCornelius

Big fan of celebrity skin here too but I’m sure I read that Corgan secretly wrote most of that - iirc he was knocking boots with Ms Love at the time

TeleMaster

DrCornelius said:

Big fan of celebrity skin here too but I’m sure I read that Corgan secretly wrote most of that - iirc he was knocking boots with Ms Love at the time

It's not a secret, he has songwriting credits on 5 of the 12 songs, which he co wrote with Courtney and Eric.

This myth that he wrote the whole album is just a way to discredit her when she did in fact write most of the songs without him but yes, she did write some of the songs, or parts of the songs with him.

Keefy

I expect everyone is aware that BC is a longtime member on here, so anyone who has commented on this thread in anything but the most glowing and sycophantic terms will have put themselves out of the running.

thermionic

If they’re going to hire a YouTube guitarist, then for the sake of the resultant publicity shots alone, they should give the job to Phillip J McKnight.

TeleMaster

thermionic said:

If they’re going to hire a YouTube guitarist, then for the sake of the resultant publicity shots alone, they should give the job to Phillip J McKnight.

Hiring Stevie T would make the internet explode. 

breakstuff

TeleMaster said:

thermionic said:

If they’re going to hire a YouTube guitarist, then for the sake of the resultant publicity shots alone, they should give the job to Phillip J McKnight.

Hiring Stevie T would make the internet explode. 

Not a Pumpkins fan at all, but that I would pay to see just for the lols.