Les Paul vs Strat

Philly_Q

TeleMaster said:

Offset said:

SlopeSoarer said:

Why are most of the pictures used for reference of old/dead guitarists?

Because there aren't many cool ones around these days :-)

Gary Clarke Jr, Her, Kingfish, Jack White, John Mayer, Tim Henson, Sophie Lloyd, Marcus King... Loads of cool guitarists about!

As Mr @Offset said, there aren't many cool guitarists around these days...

randella

randella said:

Offset said:

randella said:

Back to the OP, go buy a Strat. Job's a carrot

Where was the exhibition???

Museum of Modern Art, New York City. It was a coincidence, we were there for my dad's birthday and he wanted to see the museum anyway. Imagine a pair of guitar players finding this by accident! One of the museum staff was asking if we'd enjoyed our visit, we got to talking a bit, and he said that if we were interested in guitars we might want to head downstairs. 

I don't think it was a permanent exhibition - we were there a few months before COVID kicked off (feels like a million years, in reality about three I think).

Not sure if that makes you feel better or worse - next time you're there, I'd say go to MoMA anyway. It's incredible.

Offset

TeleMaster said:

Offset said:

SlopeSoarer said:

Why are most of the pictures used for reference of old/dead guitarists?

Because there aren't many cool ones around these days :-)

Gary Clarke Jr, Her, Kingfish, Jack White, John Mayer, Tim Henson, Sophie Lloyd, Marcus King... Loads of cool guitarists about!

I know and have heard most of them - good players for sure, but not sure I'd describe any of them as 'cool'...

TeleMaster

Offset said:

TeleMaster said:

Offset said:

SlopeSoarer said:

Why are most of the pictures used for reference of old/dead guitarists?

Because there aren't many cool ones around these days :-)

Gary Clarke Jr, Her, Kingfish, Jack White, John Mayer, Tim Henson, Sophie Lloyd, Marcus King... Loads of cool guitarists about!

I know and have heard most of them - good players for sure, but not sure I'd describe any of them as 'cool'...

I guess it depends on how you are quantifying it, but Jack White, Marcus King and Gary Clarke Jr absolutely are cool in my book. They look cool, play cool music, look good with a guitar, that's cool.

This guy doesn't look cool to you? It's like the epitome of cool if you ask me (need to stop saying cool now).

Offset

^^ I'll give you that one :-)

TeleMaster

Offset said:

^^ I'll give you that one :-)

1 down! Yay!

What about Her? Performed with Usher at the Superbowl the other week, has a signature Strat, is a good player, has some great songs etc.

Sporky

TeleMaster said:

This guy doesn't look cool to you? It's like the epitome of cool if you ask me (need to stop saying cool now).

He looks like he did a weekend residential course in looking cool. Which his mum bought him for his birthday.

Philly_Q

It's all just opinions, of course, but (IMO) the only cool person in that little list is Tim Henson.  And I'm not so sure about that, given his dreadful neck tattoos and dodgy taste in knitwear. 

Gary Clark Jr dresses like Mark Agnesi.

Offset

TeleMaster said:

Offset said:

^^ I'll give you that one :-)

1 down! Yay!

What about Her? Performed with Usher at the Superbowl the other week, has a signature Strat, is a good player, has some great songs etc.

Nope, sorry.

paulmapp8306

Personally, I cant stand Les Pauls.  I like how they sound dont get me wrong, but I dont like hoe they look, how they play, generally how much they weigh, the neck profile is wrong for me, I dont like ht balance.  

I owned one back ni about 97/98 to try and get used to these things - I just couldn't.   I resigned myself to this.

So - PRS for my Twin humbucker tones, Strat and strat shaped objects, Teles and Tele shaped objects - Im good.

When it comes to "icons".  Gilmore, Knopfler, hendrix (mostly), Blackmore, SRV, adrian smith and dave murray -  are all way cooler to me that slash - or any mostly LP  users TBH.  Even Pages best sounds to me are when hes using a Tele.

Lets face it - not a LP in sight:

https://i.imgur.com/fDuTf2n.jpg

NelsonP

TeleMaster said:

Offset said:

^^ I'll give you that one :-)

1 down! Yay!

What about Her? Performed with Usher at the Superbowl the other week, has a signature Strat, is a good player, has some great songs etc.

Cool apart from the overhyped and overblown Usher superbowl bit

TeleMaster

Philly_Q said:

It's all just opinions, of course, but (IMO) the only cool person in that little list is Tim Henson.  And I'm not so sure about that, given his dreadful neck tattoos and dodgy taste in knitwear. 

Gary Clark Jr dresses like Mark Agnesi.

It's the other way round. Mark dresses like Gary Clarke Jr. One is a rock star, the other basically works in a guitar shop. If anyone is imitating anyone in this scenario, it's not Gary.  

TeleMaster

Britney Howard of Alabama Shakes is also awesome AND cool!

Philly_Q

TeleMaster said:

Philly_Q said:

It's all just opinions, of course, but (IMO) the only cool person in that little list is Tim Henson.  And I'm not so sure about that, given his dreadful neck tattoos and dodgy taste in knitwear. 

Gary Clark Jr dresses like Mark Agnesi.

It's the other way round. Mark dresses like Gary Clarke Jr. One is a rock star, the other basically works in a guitar shop. If anyone is imitating anyone in this scenario, it's not Gary.  

Well they both dress like snooze-blooze-rock bores, but I doubt either specifically models himself on the other.

JezWynd

munckee said:

Les Pauls are basically a concrete ukelele for dad rock.

Thanks, you've just completely cured my idle gas for a Les Paul Deluxe.

TeleMaster

Well I like rock and roll guitarists and I think that Gary Clark Jr is pretty cool. 

When you start thinking everything is uncool, it might not be everything else that's uncool.  

Philly_Q

TeleMaster said:

Strong Grandpa vibes here at the moment! 

And you're excluding yourself from that....?

Philly_Q

TeleMaster said:

Well I like rock and roll guitarists and I think that Gary Clark Jr is pretty cool. 

When you start thinking everything is uncool, it might not be everything else that's uncool.  

Dramatic change of post there. 

I think we're all going to be disappointed if we post lists of people we think are cool and expect anyone else to agree with us.

TeleMaster

Philly_Q said:

TeleMaster said:

Strong Grandpa vibes here at the moment! 

And you're excluding yourself from that....?

Yes. I'm trying to champion these artists. I'm absolutely not included in the 'nothing is cool anymore' crowd. Far from it, and I never will be!

It's not so much that it matters that people don't think what I think is cool, that's subjective, it's more the attitude that nothing is good anymore, when loads of stuff is good, you know. 

What/who do you think is cool, out of interest? 

Philly_Q

TeleMaster said:

Philly_Q said:

TeleMaster said:

Strong Grandpa vibes here at the moment! 

And you're excluding yourself from that....?

Yes. I'm trying to champion these artists. I'm absolutely not included in the 'nothing is cool anymore' crowd. Far from it, and I never will be!

It's not so much that it matters that people don't think what I think is cool, that's subjective, it's more the attitude that nothing is good anymore, when loads of stuff is good, you know?

What/who do you think is cool, out of interest? 

Who's saying "nothing is cool"?  We've just said - jokingly - that there aren't many cool guitarists any more, in the context of a Les Paul versus Strat discussion.

There's a difference between worth listening to, musically excellent even, and "cool".  I've got no argument with you championing those artists, I just don't think they're "cool", since that word was brought into the discussion. 

And as I said, I'm not going to list people I think are "cool" because I don't expect anyone to agree with me.  I know they're not cool in any objective sense.

Edited to respond to your updated post:  Definitely nobody has said "nothing is **good** anymore".  That's a big extrapolation.