Line 6 Helix

WiresDreamDisasters

So after knobbing about with all my single pedals and my Kemper and my QC, trying to figure out what setup I'm going to use for live shows....


.... I've gone back to the Helix in tandem with a valve amp. It just sounds sooooooooooo good. Much better than any other option I have.

I've setup a preset-per-song, and I managed to get everything I needed onto a single path. That means I can turn on the global spillover function, and get instantaneous true spillover presets. Cosmic duuuudddeeeee.

guitarcookie1

WiresDreamDisasters said:

I've setup a preset-per-song, and I managed to get everything I needed onto a single path. That means I can turn on the global spillover function, and get instantaneous true spillover presets. Cosmic duuuudddeeeee.

If you have presets that use both paths and you turn on this spillover thing, does it delete path two from all your presets?

I want to turn it on to try the spillover preset thing but don’t want to lose path 2 from those presets that have it, even if I can’t use it while this setting is active. 

WiresDreamDisasters

guitarcookie1 said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

I've setup a preset-per-song, and I managed to get everything I needed onto a single path. That means I can turn on the global spillover function, and get instantaneous true spillover presets. Cosmic duuuudddeeeee.

If you have presets that use both paths and you turn on this spillover thing, does it delete path two from all your presets?

I want to turn it on to try the spillover preset thing but don’t want to lose path 2 from those presets that have it, even if I can’t use it while this setting is active. 

Yes, I believe it kills path 2 altogether. Dead as Dillinger.

duotone

I finally updated to 3.11!

Didn’t want to do it over Christmas incase it bricked my Helix LT, but it seems to be working fine after the update.

Really enjoying the ‘Dumblesque 2’ tone I downloaded from CustomTone: https://line6.com/customtone/tone/1818244/

shuikit

duotone said:

I finally updated to 3.11!

Didn’t want to do it over Christmas incase it bricked my Helix LT, but it seems to be working fine after the update.

Really enjoying the ‘Dumblesque 2’ tone I downloaded from CustomTone: https://line6.com/customtone/tone/1818244/

In the instructions for updates, Line 6 recommend that you do a factory reset after the update completes (on full fat power cycle while holding down the middle two footswitches on the bottom row) and then restore your settings/presets from the backup.  Then if you do another power cycle, it will rebuild the presets, which I believe is optional.  Though t will speed up switching presets as it would have to do the rebuild on the fly if you haven't done the full rebuild.  Since performing this procedure, I don't get any of the occasional 'odd' things that I used to get after updating firmware.

You can also download previous versions of firmwire from the website.

meltedbuzzbox

shuikit said:

duotone said:

I finally updated to 3.11!

Didn’t want to do it over Christmas incase it bricked my Helix LT, but it seems to be working fine after the update.

Really enjoying the ‘Dumblesque 2’ tone I downloaded from CustomTone: https://line6.com/customtone/tone/1818244/

In the instructions for updates, Line 6 recommend that you do a factory reset after the update completes (on full fat power cycle while holding down the middle two footswitches on the bottom row) and then restore your settings/presets from the backup.  Then if you do another power cycle, it will rebuild the presets, which I believe is optional.  Though t will speed up switching presets as it would have to do the rebuild on the fly if you haven't done the full rebuild.  Since performing this procedure, I don't get any of the occasional 'odd' things that I used to get after updating firmware.

You can also download previous versions of firmwire from the website.

Another smooth, fault free update from line 6 then?

jacob

WiresDreamDisasters said:

So after knobbing about with all my single pedals and my Kemper and my QC, trying to figure out what setup I'm going to use for live shows....


.... I've gone back to the Helix in tandem with a valve amp. It just sounds sooooooooooo good. Much better than any other option I have.

I've setup a preset-per-song, and I managed to get everything I needed onto a single path. That means I can turn on the global spillover function, and get instantaneous true spillover presets. Cosmic duuuudddeeeee.

I don't mean to be rude, but single pedals sound better than the Helix. Helix is kind of a jack of all trades type of deal.

guitargeek62

jacob said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

So after knobbing about with all my single pedals and my Kemper and my QC, trying to figure out what setup I'm going to use for live shows....


.... I've gone back to the Helix in tandem with a valve amp. It just sounds sooooooooooo good. Much better than any other option I have.

I've setup a preset-per-song, and I managed to get everything I needed onto a single path. That means I can turn on the global spillover function, and get instantaneous true spillover presets. Cosmic duuuudddeeeee.

I don't mean to be rude, but single pedals sound better than the Helix. Helix is kind of a jack of all trades type of deal.

Stop trolling threads

Heartfeltdawn

guitargeek62 said:

Stop trolling threads

jacob

guitargeek62 said:

jacob said:

WiresDreamDisasters said:

So after knobbing about with all my single pedals and my Kemper and my QC, trying to figure out what setup I'm going to use for live shows....


.... I've gone back to the Helix in tandem with a valve amp. It just sounds sooooooooooo good. Much better than any other option I have.

I've setup a preset-per-song, and I managed to get everything I needed onto a single path. That means I can turn on the global spillover function, and get instantaneous true spillover presets. Cosmic duuuudddeeeee.

I don't mean to be rude, but single pedals sound better than the Helix. Helix is kind of a jack of all trades type of deal.

Stop trolling threads

Wasn't my comment basically a fair enough opinion?

AsterixTG

I'm a total noob with the Helix I got hold of recently - but tonight I tried the 4 cable method for the first time and it makes a big difference for the delay & reverb - totally cleans it up, was muddy beforehand.

Tbh, it's blowing my mind as to it's capabilities. It's sort didn't exist the last time I seriously played. Perfect for quiet home recording.

BlueStrat

I’m still getting my head around the helix and its capabilities. The sound quality is pretty amazing to my ears. An incredible bit of kit, every amp you can think, every fx, cabs and a full on recording rig. The PodGo is more than enough for me but why stop there

Do you guys think IRs are worth the money? 

Bidley

BlueStrat said:

Do you guys think IRs are worth the money? 

People have been able to make the stock cabs sound good, but personally I got on better with IRs. I use the Celestion ones and the free Ownhammers.

sgosden

Bidley said:

BlueStrat said:

Do you guys think IRs are worth the money? 

People have been able to make the stock cabs sound good, but personally I got on better with IRs. I use the Celestion ones and the free Ownhammers.

For live shows.
I used stock cabs for ages. 

Then used stock cabs with Jason sadites methods. And got more compliments from fellow guitarists, and no complaints from provided FOH (as good as a compliment right?) . 

Then bought a few OH ones, which I used in conjunction with tilt EQ and a bit of compression (sadites method). For similar tone feedback, but but less DSP and a slightly better sit in mix. 

Musicwolf

sgosden said:

Bidley said:

BlueStrat said:

Do you guys think IRs are worth the money? 

People have been able to make the stock cabs sound good, but personally I got on better with IRs. I use the Celestion ones and the free Ownhammers.

For live shows.
I used stock cabs for ages. 

Then used stock cabs with Jason sadites methods. And got more compliments from fellow guitarists, and no complaints from provided FOH (as good as a compliment right?) . 

Then bought a few OH ones, which I used in conjunction with tilt EQ and a bit of compression (sadites method). For similar tone feedback, but but less DSP and a slightly better sit in mix. 

I use IR cabs to reduce DSP load but I find their main benefit to be for acoustic guitar simulation.

Bod

Musicwolf said:

I use IR cabs to reduce DSP load but I find their main benefit to be for acoustic guitar simulation.

IR increases DSP load as far as I was aware? 

I tend to stick to stock cabs, because I get option paralysis with the sheer number of IRs available.  Stock sounds pretty good to my ears, though the IRs I've tried do sound more like a real mic'd cab. 

Musicwolf

Bod said:

Musicwolf said:

I use IR cabs to reduce DSP load but I find their main benefit to be for acoustic guitar simulation.

IR increases DSP load as far as I was aware? 

I tend to stick to stock cabs, because I get option paralysis with the sheer number of IRs available.  Stock sounds pretty good to my ears, though the IRs I've tried do sound more like a real mic'd cab. 

My bad, you are correct.  I now recall that I've had to use modelled cabs rather than IRs on the odd occasion that I've hit the DSP limit.  It does make me wonder why I started using them in the first place.

TimmyO

I dicked around with IRs for ages - but tbh the stock "dual cab" blocks offer far simpler tweakable options easily than auditioning and high-cutting a zillion IR options, imho 

guitargeek62

The cab's are pretty decent, with the right setup.

That said, unless you use a heap of different amps and cab combinations, I'd still recommend bypassing IRs and Cab models altogether and running it into a power amp and actual guitar cab. It was the biggest 'improvement' by far for me - though I've not tried a Helix with the L6 powercabs yet - they seem promising.

I'm Helix-less now anyway, as I sold my floor unit to go back to a simple pedal & amp rig, but I think I'll likely get a HX stomp at some point for the amp modelling alone, if nothing else.

TTBZ

I found IRs a much quicker and easier way to get where I wanted. I use York Audio and 9 times out of 10, Mix 01 sounds awesome so I just use that and don't get sucked into the wormhole. The stock cabs take too much faffing to get them to sound as good imo.