It's even worse in real life.... Bleugh.....

Deijavoo

Muggy as sin in Carlisle.

Sassafras

If someone scrawled grafitti like that on any of my guitars, I couldn't be held responsible for my actions.

Thank God I prefer Fenders.

usedtobe

I suppose if you live to be 100, and you can still sit up , and hold a pen, that's what your handwriting would look like..

xSkarloey

Overcast here in London.

Mind you it could be sunny with a clear sky and a gentle cooling breeze and that logo would still look regrettable and one of a number of potential reasons not to buy....













....IMHO.


:P

DrJazzTap

I still stand by the fact that all this could have been avoided with either a fancy certificate of authenticity or say a swish leather anniversary strap.

Evilmags

@felineguitars should develop a conversion kit. Something that irons on and makes them look like real Les Paul.

jpttaylor

I can't felt but feel that if the guitar was at a (non-US) Fender price then maybe less people would care - is there any shame in having the Squier logo on the headstock instead of Fender? Likewise for Epiphone. 

If you spend that kind of money on a guitar then you're probably entitled to think the logo looks a bit crap. I don't think I'd ever spend more than £500 on a guitar so it's irrelevant for me personally.

underdog

usedtobe;668619" said:

I suppose if you live to be 100, and you can still sit up , and hold a pen, that's what your handwriting would look like..

The oddest bit about it all, he didn't live until he was 100.

ICBM

mrchi said:

When you make a generalised statement like that yes you should possible prefix it with "imho"

I have to say I always find that patronising - at least with the 'h' in it.

I do sometimes say 'in my opinion' if it isn't entirely clear. But I assumed you would take it as read that it was...

mrchi said:

OK adjustable nut, not zero nut, is that another point to griffindoor?........ Respect.... Starting.... To.. Wain....

Try not to be be a dick. Your description was factually wrong. (Not an opinion .) A zero fret is an actual fret which is fitted just in front of the nut - some makers (eg Gretsch) do this.

http://www.gretschguitars.com/themes/support/images/definitions/zero_fret.jpg

No offense intended .

IvisonGuitars

Come on ladies..... )

xmrchi

ICBM;668694" said:

mrchi said:

When you make a generalised statement like that yes you should possible prefix it with "imho"





I have to say I always find that patronising - at least with the 'h' in it.

I do sometimes say 'in my opinion' if it isn't entirely clear. But I assumed you would take it as read that it was...




mrchi said:OK adjustable nut, not zero nut, is that another point to griffindoor?........ Respect.... Starting.... To.. Wain....





Try not to be be a dick. Your description was factually wrong. (Not an opinion .) A zero fret is an actual fret which is fitted just in front of the nut - some makers (eg Gretsch) do this.

http://www.gretschguitars.com/themes/support/images/definitions/zero_fret.jpg

No offense intended .

I called it a zero fret once by mistake,

Try not to be a dick? Your comments came over arrogant, simple as, I'm not sure what's going on recently with you dude but some of your posts have started to come across that way, that's not the ICBM We know.

Anyways let's leave it there, really no point in carrying this on.

ICBM

No problem. I think you were taking some of my posts too personally. This is an internet forum, it's for posting opinions, which is what I do and always have done - you chose to take it that I had implied something was a fact, which I didn't. It's not about scoring points as you seem to think - I am just a bit of a pedant .

I think you're too touchy about these Gibsons - you clearly like them, which is fine. Other people have negative opinions about them, which is fine too. I happen to like Rickenbacker necks - other people find them unplayable. I'm more than happy to tell anyone thinking of buying one that they'd better be prepared for that possibility before they spend any money.

I did genuinely mean no offence was intended.

DrJazzTap

@underdog that's what I've found ever so slightly sinister about it all. Seems premeditated, I mean we know les bless him wasn't going to live till he was 150. But still, to think some slimey gibson guy asked him for his signature with 100 after it. Hmm I blame Henry. He's the new monty burns

Kuroblack

mrchi said:

It's a decal and a zero nut guys, if it played and sounded horrible I'd understand but they don't. come on now, maybe some more guitar playing and less flaming on guitars you don't even intend to buy?

It's not like they murdered a child, they slightly adapted some aspects to celebrate 100 years.

@mrchi careful, coming on here with opinions that er, make sense and seem quite reasonable

Seriously though, I've never seen so much hate on here, I do wish some posters would give it a rest for heaven's sake. 

If you don't like it, don't bloody buy one - FFS hardly rocket science

Can you imagine how much negativity there'd be on here if everyone posted about guitars they'd never buy because they thought they were shit? I like to think everyone is entitled to their own view, and that the differences are respected and even keep things interesting, but maybe not...

xmrchi

ICBM;668765" said:

No problem. I think you were taking some of my posts too personally. This is an internet forum, it's for posting opinions, which is what I do and always have done - you chose to take it that I had implied something was a fact, which I didn't. It's not about scoring points as you seem to think - I am just a bit of a pedant .



I think you're too touchy about these Gibsons - you clearly like them, which is fine. Ortho er people have negative opinions about them, which is fine too. I happen to like Rickenbacker necks - other people find them unplayable. I'm more than happy to tell anyone thinking of buying one that they'd better be prepared for that possibility before they spend any money.

I did genuinely mean no offence was intended.

Not really touchy about them, tbh, (touchy about being called a dick tho) just think if your gonna flame best to do it with hard evidence :-) not aimed at you just generally, all good tho bro, no hate or malice intended toward you.

@Kuroblack, wise words my friend, :-D

WezV

I don't mind if someone calls these a "zero-fret adjustable nut", or even ends up calling them a zero fret....  that is what gibson are calling them in all the literature or Z-FAN for short. I guess we just have to put up with the fact some will start using the term incorrectly when a major manufacturer does  (leo fenders trem??).   i will blame Gibson for getting it wrong, rather than the customers who use their terminology

mind you, they also say it gives more sustain and a brighter more consistent tone - which doesn't match my experience of solid brass nuts.  although I have to say my main concern is the systems reliance on two tiny grub screws.... doesn't matter what the nut is made from when any tonal influence is filtered through those two little screws.   its certainly not comparable to a solidly fitted fret the way they are claiming

none of that means it won't work... but it is a sub-optimal system comapred to a solid nut,  and it does lack elegance.   those are facts  

the question you have to ask is whether those compromises work for you

Chuffola

FWIW, BTW, IMHO I don't mind it and if someone wants to give me one, I'll happily take it TBH.

But Fenders are better anyway. That is a FACT and not an OPINION. They are. And my dad is better than your dad too. FACT!

Deijavoo

meltedbuzzbox

this is the fretboard right and not tgp?

usedtobe

underdog said:

usedtobe;668619" said:

I suppose if you live to be 100, and you can still sit up , and hold a pen, that's what your handwriting would look like..

The oddest bit about it all, he didn't live until he was 100.

Yeah.. You're right - it is odd! 

Ah... He WOULD have been 100, IF he'd lived.. Hmmmm.... Just gets more odd, the more I think about it. I'm going to stop, now..