It's even worse in real life.... Bleugh.....

MattG

I like some of the new features like the boost, not keen on the universal tone control as i only use it on the bridge pickup but a few seconds with a soldering iron will fix that.

in fact i would go as far as to say that the main reason i haven't tried one of the new les paul deluxes is because im scared i may actually buy the damn thing, i mean yeah the headstock decal isnt great but thats not a deal breaker for me and the 12 fret is fugly but frankly im more concerned about how the guitar feels and plays then how it looks.

It's a good idea to innovate but really they should have kept the traditionals traditional for those that want a traditional les paul and maybe brought out tradition special and junior models too.

Lew

meltedbuzzbox;669656" said:

Lew said:

I'm just back from GuitarGuitar. They had some. Had a quick glance to see what the fuss is about.





did your eyeballs explode in their sockets?

@meltedbuzzbox it was a bit ugly but can't say I really cared. The Jags and Jazzys were much prettier. But £1700+ for a Johnny Marr and £470 for a Squier? Nuts.

57Deluxe

/\ so we conclude that the Squier's nuts are less important than Johnny Marr's...

ennspek

The one I tried played lovely.

meltedbuzzbox

Lew said:

meltedbuzzbox;669656" said:

Lew said:

I'm just back from GuitarGuitar. They had some. Had a quick glance to see what the fuss is about.





did your eyeballs explode in their sockets?

@meltedbuzzbox it was a bit ugly but can't say I really cared. The Jags and Jazzys were much prettier. But £1700+ for a Johnny Marr and £470 for a Squier? Nuts.

£470 for a Squier? Really? 

Lew

Something like that aye.

Edit - looked at website. £420 for Mascis Squier.

meltedbuzzbox

Lew said:

Something like that aye.

Edit - looked at website. £420 for Mascis Squier.

that is/was mij money

sod that

impmann

Same price at PMT Northampton for the Mascis - mental

GuitarZero

meltedbuzzbox said:

Lew said:

Something like that aye.

Edit - looked at website. £420 for Mascis Squier.

that is/was mij money

sod that

Unfortunately as Squier's quality has gone up, so has their price tag.  The Vintage Modified offsets cost 300 quid now.

I always thought the VM offsets were great value at £265 but they jumped up £35 this year when Fender put all their prices up.  A 13% price jump on that model is a lot in my opinion.

ICBM

Given the quality of the ones I've played recently, I honestly don't think £400-£500 is too much. It's less in real terms than the original JVs were in the early 80s too.

The question is, if they were labelled 'Fender China' rather than 'Squier', would you still think they were overpriced? I can still remember when Fender Japan was perceived as an upgrade over Squier Japan, when the quality was exactly the same or even very marginally lower.

SNAKEBITE

Am I selfish in saying that I really could not give a toss about the logo on the headstock?

It might not be pretty, but a blind man would be pleased to see it.

I think you pays your money and you takes your chances.

I'm not a Gibson fan myself, but I know that if I were to acquire one I probably wouldn't notice the difference between that and any other one!

blueskunk

Hes right you know, again

johnonguitar

It's fucking ridiculous looking. I couldn't play one. I don't even usually care what a guitar looks like as long as it's not stupidly loud because I need to gig for a living and that's not acceptable on a lot of gigs but seriously it looks ridiculous. Just. No.

LastMantra

ICBM said:

It's because I feel sorry for anyone - probably a young player, who has saved up their money for a real Gibson - who isn't really clued up about the 'improved' features and buys a new one, and then finds they have a guitar which has reliability problems, may not play as well as they expected if they've tried an older Gibson, and which they then can't even sell for a decent price because it's one of "those 2015 models" which Gibson are about to discount because most people aren't buying them.

Yeah but how often does that happen? Lot's of things change like that...it'd be a bit like buying a brand new car and expecting it to be a vintage one.