Should we get rid of Facepalms?

Jalapeno · August 2013

But we aspire to be different !

Longtallronnie · August 2013

I like the facepalm button and I think most seem to be using it as intended without any malice. If it starts getting nasty then get rid but let's not turn into a bunch of whiny bitches just yet eh? :o3

Self facepalming should be allowed though.

#-o

EricTheWeary · August 2013

As I am not 13 I don't really understand the facepalm so I am ignoring it anyway.

VimFuego · August 2013

I think I would tend to agree with the possibility that they could be used for bullying, and I have wondered why some guys on here seem to have managed to pick up so many (one advantage of having no friends is I'm not aware of any various cliques). Sadly, on other forums I've been on they also got rid of the neg rep system. On one I go to infrequently you are limited to how much neg rep a day you can give, but I'm not sure that makes a difference.

dafuzz · August 2013

I like it and think it should stay, but I want a 'Thanks' button and 'Agree' button as well. Are we limited to just 4?

TimmyO · August 2013

imho the most effective thing is a simple cred/karma system with a single "+1" type count of how many times a user has had a thumbs up.

I won't lose any sleep over it though :-)

digitalscream · August 2013

dafuzz said:

I like it and think it should stay, but I want a 'Thanks' button and 'Agree' button as well. Are we limited to just 4?

I believe we are limited to 4 in the plugin - it'd take some development to add another, but the problem we'll then have is too many options under a post.

The thing is, we're using the overall "Frets" score as a measure of somebody's reputation in place of post count, yet the way it's set up a facepalm (whether intended humorously or not) negatively affects that score. How about we just don't let the facepalm take away from the fret score (ie it has zero effect)?

It strikes me that's the best of all worlds.

Also, just to throw another option in the mix...the Wow! button seems a little redundant to me (ie I've seen very, very few posts on any forum which would induce such a boggled state of mind that I'd find myself looking for "Wow!" instead of "Like") - how about making that one the "Agree!" or "Like!" instead of changing the facepalm?

dafuzz · August 2013

digitalscream said:

Also, just to throw another option in the mix...the Wow! button seems a little redundant to me (ie I've seen very, very few posts on any forum which would induce such a boggled state of mind that I'd find myself looking for "Wow!" instead of "Like") - how about making that one the "Agree!" or "Like!" instead of changing the facepalm?

I both Like and Agree with this

Jalapeno · August 2013

digitalscream said:

The thing is, we're using the overall "Frets" score as a measure of somebody's reputation in place of post count, yet the way it's set up a facepalm (whether intended humorously or not) negatively affects that score. How about we just don't let the facepalm take away from the fret score (ie it has zero effect)?

Psst - that's how it is already working

digitalscream · August 2013

Jalapeno said:

digitalscream said:

The thing is, we're using the overall "Frets" score as a measure of somebody's reputation in place of post count, yet the way it's set up a facepalm (whether intended humorously or not) negatively affects that score. How about we just don't let the facepalm take away from the fret score (ie it has zero effect)?

Psst - that's how it is already working

Well, I just facepalmed you and your score went from 20 to 19

monquixote · August 2013

Jalapeno said:
Psst - that's how it is already working

Facepalms reduce your frets score by 1 though the chart of the week only shows the total number of reactions you've had good or bad.

Jalapeno · August 2013

digitalscream said:

Jalapeno said:

digitalscream said:

The thing is, we're using the overall "Frets" score as a measure of somebody's reputation in place of post count, yet the way it's set up a facepalm (whether intended humorously or not) negatively affects that score. How about we just don't let the facepalm take away from the fret score (ie it has zero effect)?

Psst - that's how it is already working

Well, I just facepalmed you and your score went from 20 to 19

I thought we'd agreed that they wouldn't do that - ho hum .......

digitalscream · August 2013

Jalapeno said:

I thought we'd agreed that they wouldn't do that - ho hum .......

Maybe...can't remember. I just think that facepalms should be used to apply to the post, not the person. I like the button but not the end result, if you see what I mean

monquixote · August 2013

Jalapeno said:
I thought we'd agreed that they wouldn't do that - ho hum .......

Nope, it's been like that since the feature was turned on.

Jalapeno · August 2013

Must've have dreamt that utopian feature discussion ....

John_P · August 2013

digitalscream said:

Jalapeno said:

I thought we'd agreed that they wouldn't do that - ho hum .......

Maybe...can't remember. I just think that facepalms should be used to apply to the post, not the person. I like the button but not the end result, if you see what I mean

+1 there's the novelty of it being new etc but wouldn't a simple +1/-1 buttons be simpler so it's all about the post... at the moment everyone is being very nice to each other but I'm sure I recall some less pleasant posts on the other place - I guess it's easier for the bosses here to make sure rule1 applies at all times so it's less likely to be a massive issue

Handsome_Chris · August 2013

How does a post count, or even fret count (with or without facepalms), translate to the reputation of the poster. On MR my post count accelerated when I became unemployed. I was warned recently about the quality information from 'professional' forumites who do nothing all day but hang around the internet.

I don't think the facepalms (FP) are a bad thing. As Sporks has said "It's only inferwebs". I wouldn't get bothered or start a thread about getting a FP either. There are more important things in my life to worry about, like getting a job.

octatonic · August 2013

I like the Facepalms.

I'd like to see an 'I Agree' button.

I think Wow! can go, rather than Facepalm.

I basically use Wow! as a Like/I Agree button already.

digitalscream · August 2013

Handsome_Chris said:

How does a post count, or even fret count (with or without facepalms), translate to the reputation of the poster. On MR my post count accelerated when I became unemployed. I was warned recently about the quality information from 'professional' forumites who do nothing all day but hang around the internet.

I don't think the facepalms (FP) are a bad thing. As Sporks has said "It's only inferwebs". I wouldn't get bothered or start a thread about getting a FP either. There are more important things in my life to worry about, like getting a job.

A high post count is a measure of how involved you are with a community - if you're doing a trade with somebody, it would mean that there's a higher likelihood that somebody on here would be able to help you get in touch should something go wrong. Even more so with the fret score.

No, it's not perfect, but it's more practical than written references and an Experian credit score.

Handsome_Chris · August 2013

digitalscream said:
A high post count is a measure of how involved you are with a community - if you're doing a trade with somebody, it would mean that there's a higher likelihood that somebody on here would be able to help you get in touch should something go wrong. Even more so with the fret score.

No, it's not perfect, but it's more practical than written references and an Experian credit score.

That's a good argument, wisdom duly credited, which makes more reason for me to keep FPs in.

It was said on one of the other forums that people artificially bump up there post count with "+1" and "This" comments. This would artificially raise there reputation.

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