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The ref has admitted he was wrong. What more do you need?
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
You should have heard me shouting at the TV on Saturday!
@Gassage So if he knocks forward and regains ball before it hits floor? No knock on? How about if on an interception you knock ball up and forward and regather no knock on?
The key here is 'did they have control?'
In the instances you mention, it's reasonable to assume a degree of control.
As an aside, the first Maro pen (knocking ball out of Hardy's hand) isn't actually a knock on or illegal. Only if the SH still has ball in back of ruck would it be illegal. It falls under 'dislodged in possession or tackle'.
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
In 1999 when Wales famously beat England 32-31 with a late Scott Gibbs try I was convinced the ball was knocked forward by Scott Quinnell before he delivered the telling pass to Gibbs. If you watch it on Youtube Quinnell clearly fumbles the pass from Howley and the ball goes forwards. I was told by others at the time that because the ball didn't hit the floor it wasn't a knock on - have the laws changed since then or was this a mistake that no-one picked up?
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i would still be please for someone to show me that Law that says a ref can ping someone for a team’s persistent offending, where it is not preventing a score. It is double jeopardy, if they (infringe) and clearly several of those first few were not really , certainly not deliberate, infringements, then give a penalty. If it is preventing a score, then ping. Otherwise if it is just to do with keeping the game entertaining, you might as well ping a team if they kick the ball 3 times in a row, because that’s bloody boring too
I'm not in any way defending the referee who definitely didn't give England enough time, but Elliot Daly did it again in the second half, allowing the Wales scrum half to score from a quick tap penalty, which is unforgivable even at the lowliest club level.
Yes, they could have got out there a little quicker, but it wouldn't have made a difference because there just wasn't enough time left by the ref, short of a dead sprint. If we're going to talk about wasting time, we could always take a look at how much time Wales deliberately wasted getting to every single line-out. Imagine the outrage if the ref decided to pull the same trick there
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It makes no odds.
YOU CANNOT RESTART THE GAME* when water carriers and tech staff are on the pitch. There's 5 in total- 3 Eng, 2 Welsh.
This is a direct edict from WR.
(*well, Gauzere can.)
*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.
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*An Official Foo-Approved guitarist since Sept 2023.