Why do political and contentious topics remain in OT, but light-hearted or crass banter is moved?

chillidoggy · January 2015

We are frightened of our own shadows, these days.

holnrew · January 2015

Maybe we should ask whether the Jewish person in the thread was offended. (Scrum half?)

not_the_dj · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/56/chillidoggy">chillidoggy</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText">We are frightened of our own shadows, these days.</div> </blockquote> <font face="Arial, Verdana"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;">This is why the Shade King is recalling all the shadows back home to the sea of shade!</span></font><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div><font face="Arial, Verdana"><span style="font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;">http://www.octonauts.com/im/peek/octosospeek2.jpg</span></font><br></div>;

holnrew · January 2015

Why is "Jews" offensive anyway? It's how it's said in the bible.

chillidoggy · January 2015

<BLOCKQUOTE class=Quote> <DIV class=QuoteAuthor><A href="/profile/41/not_the_dj">not_the_dj</A> said:</DIV> <DIV class=QuoteText> <BLOCKQUOTE style="FONT: 10pt Arial, Verdana" class=Quote> <DIV class=QuoteAuthor><A href="/profile/56/chillidoggy">chillidoggy</A> said:</DIV> <DIV class=QuoteText>We are frightened of our own shadows, these days.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Arial, Verdana"><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This is why the Shade King is recalling all the shadows back home to the sea of shade!</SPAN></FONT> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial, Verdana"><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial, Verdana"><SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 13px">http://www.octonauts.com/im/peek/octosospeek2.jpg</SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not by any chance related to @Sambostar, are you?

Drew_TNBD · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/46/John_P">John_P</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText"><blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/86/Drew_fx">Drew_fx</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText"><blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/2516/Wolfetone">Wolfetone</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText"><blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/41/not_the_dj">not_the_dj</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText">Your Jew thread was explained in the "mod intervention" thread.<div><br></div><div>There's a trigger level of how many people flag something (so it was more than one person)</div></div> </blockquote> Yeah, although I didn't complain, I thought that it was a bit edgy as if there was an ulterior point somewhere trying to be made. I couldn't put a finger on it but it seemed strange to single out a particular religious group and ask about their 'Jewwy' (I think that was the expression) ways.<div><br></div><div>It made me feel uncomfortable. </div></div> </blockquote> Okay. I'll level with you. I'm an anti-semite misogynist racist white nationalist. I was looking for my bredren.</div> </blockquote> I had just posted in that thread before it was deleted, that it made me uncomfortable and I wasnt sure why. I'm genuinely curious if I was missing some satire or in-joke or if you were actually curious about the jewish culture? <br></div> </blockquote> I have no beef (or pork) with Jews. I started that thread because I knew precisely that the usage of even the word Jew, or the word Jewwy, would get people flagging.<div><br></div><div>I was merely illustrating a point about the clientele around here. People who as far as I can tell, offer nothing to the community other condemnation of it's members, and complaints about Hendrix... or whatever other pathetic team-sport they're playing at these days.</div>

Chuffola · January 2015

I flagged it and I also commented that I didn't like it.<div><br></div><div>Amazingly, this being a reasonably decent forum, I'm allowed to do both and I don't think it makes me a twat (although many other things might and many of you could well think I am - with varying degrees of justification).</div><div><br></div><div>It made me hugely uncomfortable that it was in Off Topic and easily viewed by anyone checking out the forum.</div><div><br></div><div>Like others, I wasn't sure what the point of the thread was but, if it was "merely illustrating a point" or that you knew it "would get people flagging" then well done. You won. Have a cake. </div>

Drew_TNBD · January 2015

Basically... You're all a bit uptight.

Sambostar · January 2015

<p>Good, now that is sorted, let's go and kill us some gingers.</p>

Drew_TNBD · January 2015

I like gingers. And scots.

Chuffola · January 2015

Possibly, but there are definitely "trigger" words that probably contribute to that and I think you may have hit on one - just like you thought it would.<div><br></div><div>I rarely flag any posts - that one got under my skin and must have done the same with a fair number of others if it hit the flag limit (whatever that is).</div><div><br></div><div>Also, I wouldn't consider myself as offering "nothing to the community other than condemnation of its members". </div><div><br></div><div>Not sure where that came from @Drew_fx, or who it's aimed at. If it's me then I'd love to know what I've done. If not, it seems a little self obsessed to me.</div><div><br></div><div>But, hey - call me a cunt and we can move on.</div><div><br></div>

Drew_TNBD · January 2015

[quote="Chuffola;476905"]Possibly, but there are definitely "trigger" words that probably contribute to that and I think you may have hit on one - just like you thought it would.<br /> I rarely flag any posts - that one got under my skin and must have done the same with a fair number of others if it hit the flag limit (whatever that is).<br /> Also, I wouldn't consider myself as offering "nothing to the community other than condemnation of its members". <br /> Not sure where that came from @Drew_fx, or who it's aimed at. If it's me then I'd love to know what I've done. If not, it seems a little self obsessed to me.<br /> But, hey - call me a cunt and we can move on.[/quote] Here's a clue... I posted that before you made it publicly known that you flagged it. Persecution complex much?

PolarityMan · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/45/Chuffola">Chuffola</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText">I flagged it and I also commented that I didn't like it.<div><br></div></div> </blockquote> Hope that attempting to censor people makes you feel like a big man.

Chuffola · January 2015

Not at all. Just that in one of your original posts in this thread you claimed that someone "threw a hissy fit" - since I think I was the only person on the thread that did anything close to that, I assumed you were referring to me.<div><br></div><div>Anyway, keep turning the spotlight away from yourself. Keep it on me, or anyone else. It something you seem to be very good at. </div><div><br></div><div>/waits for next sparklingly witty comeback</div><div><br></div><div>Edit: This post refers to Drew's not PolarityMan. But, I am a big man. 6' 4". But there's a flag button for a reason. Or are we not allowed to use that now in case it infringes some basic right we have? Maybe the mods should remove it?</div>

Hootsmon · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/86/Drew_fx">Drew_fx</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText">I like gingers. And scots. </div> </blockquote> *sigh*<br>

Strat_a_tat_tat · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote"><div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/86/Drew_fx">Drew_fx</a> said:</div><div class="QuoteText"><blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteText">I like ginger <strong>nuts</strong>. And <strong>scotch</strong>. </div> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> Corrected for you. <br>

Drew_TNBD · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/45/Chuffola">Chuffola</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText">Not at all. Just that in one of your original posts in this thread you claimed that someone "threw a hissy fit" - since I think I was the only person on the thread that did anything close to that, I assumed you were referring to me.<div><br></div><div>Anyway, keep turning the spotlight away from yourself. Keep it on me, or anyone else. It something you seem to be very good at. </div><div><br></div><div>/waits for next sparklingly witty comeback</div><div><br></div><div>Edit: This post refers to Drew's not PolarityMan. But, I am a big man. 6' 4". But there's a flag button for a reason. Or are we not allowed to use that now in case it infringes some basic right we have? Maybe the mods should remove it?</div></div> </blockquote> So hang on a sec...<br><br>I have not abused anyone in this thread. I did not abuse anyone in the thread you're talking about either. Yet... I'm the bad guy?? :-?<br><br>You're the one casting targeted personal aspersions here, not me. Keep some perspective. You're a big man, but you're taking offense to me saying someone threw a hissy fit? FWIW, I didn't even recall the persons name, which is why I said "someone" rather than @Chuffola.<br><br>I posed some very general questions. You're the one making it all about you. Not me. Beggars belief mate.<br>

Drew_TNBD · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/931/Strat_a_tat_tat">Strat_a_tat_tat</a> said:</div> <div class="QuoteText"><blockquote class="Quote"><div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/86/Drew_fx">Drew_fx</a> said:</div><div class="QuoteText"><blockquote class="Quote"> <div class="QuoteText">I like ginger <strong>nuts</strong>. And <strong>scotch</strong>. </div> </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> Corrected for you. <br>

</div> </blockquote> Ginger nuts are one of my favourite biscuits as it happens.<br>

vasselmeyer · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote" style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"> <div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/86/Drew_fx">Drew_fx</a> said:</div><div class="QuoteAuthor"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">I have no beef (or pork) with Jews. I started that thread because I knew precisely that the usage of even the word Jew, or the word Jewwy, would get people flagging.</span></div><div class="QuoteText"><div><br></div><div>I was merely illustrating a point about the clientele around here. People who as far as I can tell, offer nothing to the community other condemnation of it's members, and complaints about Hendrix... or whatever other pathetic team-sport they're playing at these days.</div></div> </blockquote><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal;"> @Drew_fx Perhaps I can draw your attention to the definition of "Internet Troll" on Wikipedia:</span><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div><span style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal;">In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.</span></div></blockquote><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;">If, as you say, you "started that thread because I knew precisely that the usage of even the word Jew, or the word Jewwy, would get people flagging" then personally I believe you match the textbook definition and you have contravened the forum's rule #1 which, I'm sure you don't need reminding (although I'll do it anywaybecause you seem to have forgotten) is "don't be a dick". If you <span style="font-style: italic;">deliberately</span> went out of your way to provoke then congratulations, achievement unlocked.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Verdana; font-size: 10pt; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;">You have interesting ideas on music, amps, effects, production etc but you do seem intent on provoking or winding other people up deliberately.</div>

Drew_TNBD · January 2015

<blockquote class="Quote"><div class="QuoteAuthor">vasselmeyer;476932" said:</div><div class="QuoteText">Drew_fx said:I have no beef (or pork) with Jews. I started that thread because I knew precisely that the usage of even the word Jew, or the word Jewwy, would get people flagging.<br><br>I was merely illustrating a point about the clientele around here. People who as far as I can tell, offer nothing to the community other condemnation of it's members, and complaints about Hendrix... or whatever other pathetic team-sport they're playing at these days.<br><br><br><br><br><br><a rel="nofollow" href="/profile/Drew_fx">@Drew_fx</a> Perhaps I can draw your attention to the definition of "Internet Troll" on Wikipedia:<br><br>In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.<br><br>If, as you say, you "started that thread because I knew precisely that the usage of even the word Jew, or the word Jewwy, would get people flagging" then personally I believe you match the textbook definition and you have contravened the forum's rule #1 which, I'm sure you don't need reminding (although I'll do it anywaybecause you seem to have forgotten) is "don't be a dick". If you deliberately went out of your way to provoke then congratulations, achievement unlocked.<br><br>You have interesting ideas on music, amps, effects, production etc but you do seem intent on provoking or winding other people up deliberately.</div></blockquote>Not to belabour the point, but the rule is don't be a dick. Not don't be a troll. I don't really agree with your assessment either.<br><br>Again with the personal insults... I don't understand why you guys resort to such aggression. It really does boggle the mind.<br>

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