6 million dollars for Kurt Cobains acoustic!!!

grungebob

birtner said:

Newsflash: guitar forum that a small minority  discusses the tonal merits of swapping tiny capacities in mass produced amplifiers don’t get popular culture!

Fixed it for you

skullfunkerry

thegummy said:

I wouldn't normally be surprised by this amount being paid but I'm surprised that this, which wasn't Cobain's main guitar got so much more than the black Strat which was Gilmour's main most iconic guitar.

I would have thought Gilmour was at least as important a name, if not more.

Am I mistaken and the MTV Unplugged concert actually was more iconic than the Mevermind album at the time?

It’s not necessarily about who was more important... and that’s a subjective thing anyway. My brother is a huge death metal/grindcore/ohgodpleasemakeitstop fan and if you asked him about Chuck Schuldiner’s guitar abilities vs Dave Gilmour’s, I’m pretty sure he would ask who Dave Gilmour was.

And the prices don’t necessarily reflect importance either, it’s just who had the money at the time. If Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg all happened to be massive Slayer fans and got into a bidding war then Jeff Hanneman’s ESP could easily become the most expensive guitar of all time, and this conversation would start all over again.

(I’m chuckling to myself now at the thought of those three moshing around their living rooms to Raining Blood)

Hattigol

impmann said:

Never understood the love for Nirvana. Never will. Never understood why this guitar Or performance  was ‘iconic’. 

Then again I am responsible for the advert that ran the following week after Kurt’s death in Melody Maker...
”Wanted Singer/Guitarist for Seattle-based grunge band. Must have bulletproof head “

I had some replies.

That's disgusting. What kind of a sick person would do that? You abysmal individual.

Moloch

thegummy said:

I would have thought Gilmour was at least as important a name, if not more.

In 2020? Not even close.

Sassafras

Must be one hell of a guitar.

thegummy

skullfunkerry said:

thegummy said:

I wouldn't normally be surprised by this amount being paid but I'm surprised that this, which wasn't Cobain's main guitar got so much more than the black Strat which was Gilmour's main most iconic guitar.

I would have thought Gilmour was at least as important a name, if not more.

Am I mistaken and the MTV Unplugged concert actually was more iconic than the Mevermind album at the time?

It’s not necessarily about who was more important... and that’s a subjective thing anyway. My brother is a huge death metal/grindcore/ohgodpleasemakeitstop fan and if you asked him about Chuck Schuldiner’s guitar abilities vs Dave Gilmour’s, I’m pretty sure he would ask who Dave Gilmour was.

And the prices don’t necessarily reflect importance either, it’s just who had the money at the time. If Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg all happened to be massive Slayer fans and got into a bidding war then Jeff Hanneman’s ESP could easily become the most expensive guitar of all time, and this conversation would start all over again.

(I’m chuckling to myself now at the thought of those three moshing around their living rooms to Raining Blood)

Aye between this and snags' comment it explains it totally.

thegummy

Moloch said:

thegummy said:

I would have thought Gilmour was at least as important a name, if not more.

In 2020? Not even close.

I think I was underestimating how much Kurt is still a big name outside the muso world.

I'd have thought most people, who aren't specifically in to old rock music, were disinterested in nirvana and may or may not have heard his name.

grungebob

His old Boss DS1 just sold for $9000!

soma1975

Not even true bypass ffs

Bluebeard

His cardigan from Unplugged in New York went for $334,000 last year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50199103

It is often voted as one of the best live albums. Well worth a listen even if you are not a fan of grunge.

soma1975

Even after all these years I hate the G-word. 

mburekenge

Not sure how anyone can credibly doubt Nirvana's cultural impact? I was the right age at the time, but even fashion designers were copying shitty plaid shirts on the catwalk LOL They were massive. Can't remember the last time I listened to them, but they're a great band!

ICBM

I was thinking... rock’n’roll was late 50s, punk was mid 70s, grunge was early 90s - roughly every 18 years.

What youth music movement happened around 2010? Did I miss it? (Quite likely, I was 43 then.)

Creed_Clicks

impmann said:

Never understood the love for Nirvana. Never will. Never understood why this guitar Or performance  was ‘iconic’. 

Then again I am responsible for the advert that ran the following week after Kurt’s death in Melody Maker...
”Wanted Singer/Guitarist for Seattle-based grunge band. Must have bulletproof head “

I had some replies.

I hope you're joking here? You really placed that ad? If you did, what a sad sad individual you were.

Musicman20

barnstorm said:

That seems a crazy price to me. Most artist guitars are expensive because guitar people care about them. Cobain wasn't exactly a 'guitarist's guitarist', and grunge seems far less culturally relevant now than most things that came before and after. Do people still spend time thinking about him and his music?

Absolutely. He is a song writer, front man, and anti-guitar hero. He brought the underground to the masses. Nirvana changed my outlook on music when I was about 11 years old. 

earwighoney

ICBM said:

I was thinking... rock’n’roll was late 50s, punk was mid 70s, grunge was early 90s - roughly every 18 years.

What youth music movement happened around 2010? Did I miss it? (Quite likely, I was 43 then.)

Grunge is back now IC, for sure but it's no longer in the realm of guitar bands. Kids in USA are no longer going the way of playing in bands but getting microphones/Garageband to make music. Like with the late 80's/early 90's there was a heroin epidemic in the USA, there's been one in the USA over the last 4-5 years and there's been a rap movement which has been reflecting this in the timespan. Like with grunge, there have been a few deaths of musicians before their times due to drugs and so on like Lil Peep, Juice World, Mac Miller etc. Maybe this particular movement hasn't smashed into the musical landscape as much as grunge did in the early 90's, but it's still significant.

thegummy

ICBM said:

I was thinking... rock’n’roll was late 50s, punk was mid 70s, grunge was early 90s - roughly every 18 years.

What youth music movement happened around 2010? Did I miss it? (Quite likely, I was 43 then.)

The industry had changed by then, there was probably loads of different new styles all over the internet but the big labels were less likely to have got behind any of them to make them become the mainstream phenomena of the movements you mentioned.

Creed_Clicks

Kind of odd that a band who supposedly didn't care about image and used bog standard gear to play and record with are now linked to a 6 million dollar guitar and a cardigan that sold for hundreds of thousands...

earwighoney

Creed_Clicks said:

Kind of odd that a band who supposedly didn't care about image and used bog standard gear to play and record with are now linked to a 6 million dollar guitar and a cardigan that sold for hundreds of thousands...

Agree. I find that's the way with the instruments they championed eg Offsets which they largely played as they were cheap and now due to their success those instruments became really expensive.

As for the above, a similar thing happened with Punk when items belonging to the Sex Pistols were auctioned.

roberty

earwighoney said:

ICBM said:

I was thinking... rock’n’roll was late 50s, punk was mid 70s, grunge was early 90s - roughly every 18 years.

What youth music movement happened around 2010? Did I miss it? (Quite likely, I was 43 then.)

Grunge is back now IC, for sure but it's no longer in the realm of guitar bands. Kids in USA are no longer going the way of playing in bands but getting microphones/Garageband to make music. Like with the late 80's/early 90's there was a heroin epidemic in the USA, there's been one in the USA over the last 4-5 years and there's been a rap movement which has been reflecting this in the timespan. Like with grunge, there have been a few deaths of musicians before their times due to drugs and so on like Lil Peep, Juice World, Mac Miller etc. Maybe this particular movement hasn't smashed into the musical landscape as much as grunge did in the early 90's, but it's still significant.

Yeh I was going to mention the influence on soundcloud hip hop, I don't know if that's the proper word for it any more but it's the xanax/face tattoos/emo thing that I am definitely too old for. I think the angst resonates with certain people today who aren't necessarily into guitars

https://djbooth.net/features/2019-04-05-kurt-cobain-undying-influence-on-hip-hop