IK Multimedia TONEX Pedal

Basher

fretmeister said:

I've found a decent Ampeg SVT-CL patch too, so my initial aim of a do it all lounge rig is coming along.

Bit of a shame that the onboard compressor is a bit crap for bass. Needs more parameters. 

Is the Ampeg an Amalgam patch? Just interested to know as I've only casually listened to a few bass patches.

Pity about the compressor as it sounds basically ok to me. What I can't quite get my head round are the patches with compressors included in the capture. Surely compression is a "time based" effect (with variable attack and release) and therefore out of Tonex modelling capabilities. 
I've listened to some with the compressors "baked in" but they tend to sound very squashed, even with high end units as the source.

DiscoStu

fretmeister said:

John_P said:

fretmeister said:

Are the Amalgam free ones any good, or do hey save the good stuff for the paid packs?

Yes he just picks one of the captures in the pack an uploads it to tonenet.  

I just downloaded all his free ones I liked the look of and found a couple of excellent Mesa ones that are really close to both my Helix and my old proper Dual Rec.

Nice!

I've found a decent Ampeg SVT-CL patch too, so my initial aim of a do it all lounge rig is coming along.

Bit of a shame that the onboard compressor is a bit crap for bass. Needs more parameters. 

Oo! What Mesa one did you get? I really need to check out the Amalgam stuff

fretmeister

DiscoStu said:

fretmeister said:

John_P said:

fretmeister said:

Are the Amalgam free ones any good, or do hey save the good stuff for the paid packs?

Yes he just picks one of the captures in the pack an uploads it to tonenet.  

I just downloaded all his free ones I liked the look of and found a couple of excellent Mesa ones that are really close to both my Helix and my old proper Dual Rec.

Nice!

I've found a decent Ampeg SVT-CL patch too, so my initial aim of a do it all lounge rig is coming along.

Bit of a shame that the onboard compressor is a bit crap for bass. Needs more parameters. 

Oo! What Mesa one did you get? I really need to check out the Amalgam stuff

Remind me tomorrow and I’ll get the name of the patch.

DiscoStu

Cheeky reminder for @fretmeister ;

fretmeister

DiscoStu said:

Cheeky reminder for @fretmeister ;

@DiscoStu ;

It's this one: https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/37074

DiscoStu

fretmeister said:

DiscoStu said:

Cheeky reminder for @fretmeister ;

@DiscoStu ;

It's this one: https://www.tone.net/tonex/tonemodels/37074

Cheers min!

rickd2112a

I've just ordered a Tonex One, will be with me tomorrow. But I'm wondering if I've made a miscalculation.

I have avoided the Tonex pedals as I really don't want to have to use a computer with them. I am looking for a simple, good sounding headphone solution. The whole point is to be quick to plug-in, and then practice. I don't want to start messing with software. I had a POD Go for a while and spent more time messing with it than playing. 

I appreciate that you can use the software to download new captures - that's fine, I planned to do that after getting used to it. Then set it and forget it. So I'm not saying I won't use the software, I understand what it's for and will use it. However, I don't wish to use it with a guitar connected as part of my practise.

My plan was to use the factory presets for a while. I assumed that you select one, say the Super Reverb, then adjust the gain, treble, middle, bass, reverb etc to suit your requirements. But then how do you save that to the preset?

I've just realised that in the countless videos and posts I looked at, no one ever mentions this.

Otherwise once you change preset or power the Tonex One off, the knobs tweaks will be lost.

Have I missed something, or do you have to make these tweaks in the computer software and save them in the librarian?

Can any users let me know how this works please?

EDIT
Sorted - I'd missed that it has Auto-Save. So any changes on the pedal should be auto-saved into the pedal's preset.

adamino

rickd2112a said:

I've just ordered a Tonex One, will be with me tomorrow. But I'm wondering if I've made a miscalculation.

I have avoided the Tonex pedals as I really don't want to have to use a computer with them. I am looking for a simple, good sounding headphone solution. The whole point is to be quick to plug-in, and then practice. I don't want to start messing with software. I had a POD Go for a while and spent more time messing with it than playing. 

I appreciate that you can use the software to download new captures - that's fine, I planned to do that after getting used to it. Then set it and forget it. So I'm not saying I won't use the software, I understand what it's for and will use it. However, I don't wish to use it with a guitar connected as part of my practise.

My plan was to use the factory presets for a while. I assumed that you select one, say the Super Reverb, then adjust the gain, treble, middle, bass, reverb etc to suit your requirements. But then how do you save that to the preset?

I've just realised that in the countless videos and posts I looked at, no one ever mentions this.

Otherwise once you change preset or power the Tonex One off, the knobs tweaks will be lost.

Have I missed something, or do you have to make these tweaks in the computer software and save them in the librarian?

Can any users let me know how this works please?

Try a few amalgam captures which are very good,they are pretty much pre configured (like all captures available) within their captures with bass gain treble and settings and Cabs etc to sound great.

You would have to load them onto the pedal via the tonex software.
You would have to slightly tweak the treble bass volume settings on the pedal itself to suit your taste.

DiscoStu

My Fender FR-10 arrived today!!
Plugged the Tonex in to it and now have a better sense of what it can do (compared to putting it through my Yamaha THR10).
Some of the stock cleans sound fabulous, especially with the neck pickup of my Baja Tele.
Some of the high gain captures which initially sounded really good through the THR actually sound quite fizzy or squelchy through the FR-10 which I wasn't expecting. 
And then there's the Twin and Plexi sounds which are fab. 

So now I have a quality amp to hear the real deal, I have to get me some Amalgam downloads...

FarleyUK

Nope, I’m sending it back. For me, it just feels too difficult to get everything set as I want it (which is ironic as my main systems are Fractals…). 

Shame, but think I’ll stick with the Fractal stuff for now. 

adamino

I use my Tonex via the FX loop and use direct captures and they sound great.

Forget IRS ,they will never make us happy amplified.

DiscoStu

I'm having fun with the Tonex today now that I've got the FR-10.
When I'm in the Tonex software I've realised that the Volume is set to 5.
Has everyone else just cranked it up to 10 and left it? I'm using mine as an amp replacement.

adamino

I'd recommend having the amp volume at 6.5 upwards.The sound will be more refined,less spongy and muffly.

Master volume at 5 upwards too

Bod

There's an update available.  You can now add a custom DI to the Audio Demo player, which is pretty cool.

What’s new in version 1.7.5:

• TONEX Player
  • Fixed a bug on Windows that could cause the skins to blur when expanding the app window.
  • Fixed a bug on Windows where the amp and cabinet states were not correctly recalled in some DAWs.
  • Fixed AU plugin automation parameters being displayed incorrectly in some DAWs.
  
  
• TONEX Modeler
  • Improved meters allow for more precise level adjustments.
  • Fixed various graphic bugs.
  
  
• ToneNET
  • Optimized the Collections update process and memory usage in the Collections tab.
  • Reduced CPU load in the Collections tab on Windows.
  
  
• Embedded TONEX ONE Firmware 1.1.4
  • Fixed an issue where changing the global cabinet bypass state in the Librarian did not update it in real time on TONEX ONE.
  
  
• Users can now add Custom DIs to the Audio Demo player and use them in the Player and in the Modeler.
• Backups now include custom folders.
• Fixed a crash that could occur when "Restore Purchases" failed.
• General reliability improvements.

DiscoStu

Well well...
Took the Tonex pedal and the FR-10 to band practice tonight and it's probably the BEST tone I've ever had!
The pain was worth it, this is gonna be mega.

chrisj1602

DiscoStu said:

Well well...
Took the Tonex pedal and the FR-10 to band practice tonight and it's probably the BEST tone I've ever had!
The pain was worth it, this is gonna be mega.

That’s good to know, I’ve been considering the FR-10 for my Tonex One…

Then I’ll probably want the big Tonex pedal won’t I…FFS

DiscoStu

Yeah it was bloody brilliant!
I downloaded several free Amalgam captures and used a few of them tonight and it was a massive relief just how good they sounded through the FR-10.
The best was the Mesa hi-gain (think it's a MkIV one I ended up going with) which I used for Outshined (Soundgarden). Man, just heavenly.
The FR-10 was half way up and was plenty loud enough against our drummer, bassist, and other guitarist who had his new Marshall DSL402 up nearly full. 
Happy Disco.

Shelders

Happy Sunday guys!

So I'm thinking about getting a tonex pedal as not 100% happy with PodGo amps and after playing with the free software they do sound better. However the whole amp captures thing is confusing me slightly so I'm hoping someone can clarify. My understanding of the captures is that they are quite simply that - a capture of an amp setup with all the amp knobs set up in a certain way. So my confusion comes when editing the gain, treble etc on the app. Surely this won't do much if the whole point of capture is that the amp is setup for a certain sound ?

thecolourbox

I can't remember which way around it is, whether the eq is pre or post amp capture, or whether you can choose. But either way you're just boosting or cutting the treble mid or bass either going into or out of the amp if that makes sense

Basher

Shelders said:

Happy Sunday guys!

So I'm thinking about getting a tonex pedal as not 100% happy with PodGo amps and after playing with the free software they do sound better. However the whole amp captures thing is confusing me slightly so I'm hoping someone can clarify. My understanding of the captures is that they are quite simply that - a capture of an amp setup with all the amp knobs set up in a certain way. So my confusion comes when editing the gain, treble etc on the app. Surely this won't do much if the whole point of capture is that the amp is setup for a certain sound ?

The capture/tone model is just as you describe. You can however adjust the gain,  EQ etc. to sculpt that sound to your needs. You can save these changes plus gate/compression/reverb settings as a preset.

I know what you mean about it seeming odd to change what was the original sound of the amp, cab, stomp etc. but you don't have to.

It's quite useful to be able to tailor the capture for your own needs and I suppose the sound is what's important. It's highly unlikely that a punter will throw a wobbler claiming that you've cut the mids beyond what is actually possible on a Matchless DC-30 (or whatever).