The F1 thread

holnrew

If a rival team thinks it's silly then it's silly. Mind you Lauda isn't particularly conventional

Fretwired

holnrew said:

If a rival team thinks it's silly then it's silly. Mind you Lauda isn't particularly conventional

He makes some good points - you have fans all over the world watching - they see an exciting overtake and yet it's disallowed and a penalty is added, yet throughout the race drivers were doing similar things. It was an excellent race with plenty of action and Max was easily driver of the day .. they should have cut him some slack. Lewis and Max were in a different league from the rest yesterday.

chillidoggy

Worse than Max's race penalty are those effing stupid grid penalties dished out for technical issues. They really need to stop that nonsense with immediate effect. Even Coulthard was on about starting a Twitter campaign against it.

Fretwired

chillidoggy said:

Worse than Max's race penalty are those effing stupid grid penalties dished out for technical issues. They really need to stop that nonsense with immediate effect. Even Coulthard was on about starting a Twitter campaign against it.

Brawn's already said it's top of his list to fix.

chillidoggy

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

Worse than Max's race penalty are those effing stupid grid penalties dished out for technical issues. They really need to stop that nonsense with immediate effect. Even Coulthard was on about starting a Twitter campaign against it.

Brawn's already said it's top of his list to fix.

Well, he needs to get his finger out!

prowla

In fairness, the stewards couldn't let Verstappens pass stick; all 4 wheels off the track is breaking the rules, aka cheating.

It would also have been penalising Raikonnen's defensive driving, within the rules and conserving fuel, to keep the place.

Allowing the pass to stand for a podium position would have simply been saying forget the rules.

However, if I were Red Bull, I'd be raising a protest against every other car which had all four wheels of track, if only to try and negate the penalty.

Fretwired

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

Worse than Max's race penalty are those effing stupid grid penalties dished out for technical issues. They really need to stop that nonsense with immediate effect. Even Coulthard was on about starting a Twitter campaign against it.

Brawn's already said it's top of his list to fix.

Well, he needs to get his finger out!

It won't be fixed until next year at the earliest.

simonk

The grid penalties for engine changes are ridiculous and universally despised it seems. The only positive is it does sometimes give us a mixed up grid... I’m not sure yesterday’s race would have been quite as enjoyable had it not had Max carving his way through the field.

chillidoggy

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

Worse than Max's race penalty are those effing stupid grid penalties dished out for technical issues. They really need to stop that nonsense with immediate effect. Even Coulthard was on about starting a Twitter campaign against it.

Brawn's already said it's top of his list to fix.

Well, he needs to get his finger out!

It won't be fixed until next year at the earliest.

Why not? No one is in favour of them, the FIA (an organisation with questionable integrity), needs to dump them. It has the power to do so, so where’s the log jam?

Nomad

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

It won't be fixed until next year at the earliest.

Why not? No one is in favour of them, the FIA (an organisation with questionable integrity), needs to dump them. It has the power to do so, so where’s the log jam?

I would imagine coming up with an alternative way to penalise technical failings would be part of it at least. Otherwise, it would be back to the days of unlimited supplies of engines and all the rest.

holnrew

And it would be unfair. 

stickyfiddle

Gasly & Hartley for Mexico. 

https://twitter.com/ToroRossoSpy/status/922501274020524033

With Kvyat getting demoted again we can expect another Max win, right?

chillidoggy

Nomad said:

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

It won't be fixed until next year at the earliest.

Why not? No one is in favour of them, the FIA (an organisation with questionable integrity), needs to dump them. It has the power to do so, so where’s the log jam?

I would imagine coming up with an alternative way to penalise technical failings would be part of it at least. Otherwise, it would be back to the days of unlimited supplies of engines and all the rest.

No, they just need to deduct points from the team, not the driver!

Fretwired

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

Fretwired said:

chillidoggy said:

Worse than Max's race penalty are those effing stupid grid penalties dished out for technical issues. They really need to stop that nonsense with immediate effect. Even Coulthard was on about starting a Twitter campaign against it.

Brawn's already said it's top of his list to fix.

Well, he needs to get his finger out!

It won't be fixed until next year at the earliest.

Why not? No one is in favour of them, the FIA (an organisation with questionable integrity), needs to dump them. It has the power to do so, so where’s the log jam?

Because some teams have been penalised already this season. Vettel is fighting Hamilton - he was at the back of the grid a few weeks ago as he had to take new parts. Let's say it's abandoned next week. Does that mean Lewis could take new engine parts and end up on pole? That wouldn't be fair. You could deduct points from Mercedes, but they have already celebrated winning the constructors championship. You are only left with fining them - they are rich.

Won't happen until next year.

Nitefly

What happens to the "replaced" engines and gearboxes?  Do they just go for scrap, or can they be rebuilt/refurbished?

rocktron

Here's something trivial. How tall are these guys: Steve Jones, Mark Webber, David Coulthard, and Toto Wolff?

Eddie Jordan and Christian Horner look positively like midgets standing next to them!!!     

breakstuff

rocktron said:

Here's something trivial. How tall are these guys: Steve Jones, Mark Webber, David Coulthard, and Toto Wolff?

Eddie Jordan and Christian Horner look positively like midgets standing next to them!!!     

To be fair Eddie Jordan is only 4' 6".

not_the_dj

breakstuff said:

rocktron said:

Here's something trivial. How tall are these guys: Steve Jones, Mark Webber, David Coulthard, and Toto Wolff?

Eddie Jordan and Christian Horner look positively like midgets standing next to them!!!     

To be fair Eddie Jordan is only 4' 6".

and Steve Jones is a massive cock

chillidoggy

Brawn's muttering about whether there should be more GP's rather than Friday practices.

Fretwired

Wrong thread