Jacob Collier approach to guitar

susbemol

sev112 said:

playing pentatonics over 13 bar blues

That's quite Prog, actually.

susbemol

The amount of time and energy spent on this forum by people telling us they don't like something always amazes me.

I hope even more effort is put into things they are really into.

Kurtis

Hey, I enjoy not liking stuff! 

digitalkettle

Kurtis said:

Hey, I enjoy not liking stuff! 

Brad

susbemol said:

The amount of time and energy spent on this forum by people telling us they don't like something always amazes me.

I hope even more effort is put into things they are really into.

Sadly in life, I’ve found for folk with that inclination, it takes very little of their time and effort, it comes quite easily. 

The knock on effect is that extra effort you hope for, seldom happens  

Litterick

Sporky said:

Litterick said:

We are told he has reinvented guitar tuning

By whom? 

The bearded man: he has named this video, "How Jacob Collier Reinvented the Guitar." He said something about symmetrical tuning across the fretboard or something like that.

I admit I have not watched all of it, and may have missed some other ways Collier reinvented the guitar.

Litterick

thecolourbox said:

Litterick said:

We are told he has reinvented guitar tuning, yet he plays with a capo.

What's wrong with a capo? 

Nothing. I use one, to make intervals that are beyond my reach. But I do not see why he would need one, since his intervals are not unusual and he does not strum like a singer-songwriter. Maybe he just lacks confidence.

Litterick

digitalkettle said:

Why is this so moving...


Of course, he samples it at some point and it appears on a subsequent record...

Because we yearn for belonging. See also: Elbow performing One Day Like This at Glastonbury 2011.

stickyfiddle

I haven't read past page 4 and I haven't listened to much JC because it's not really my bag, but he's unquestionably a man of immense talent. I actually really like watching him talk about music, more than I enjoy listening to it. That "5 ways to play" video is incredible and honestly I feel sad for folks who can't admit that. 

I also don't particularly enjoy Bach or Coltrane but I don't go around saying they were shit - that's obvious bumfluffery.

Epsilon

Litterick said:

thecolourbox said:

Litterick said:

We are told he has reinvented guitar tuning, yet he plays with a capo.

What's wrong with a capo? 

Nothing. I use one, to make intervals that are beyond my reach. But I do not see why he would need one, since his intervals are not unusual and he does not strum like a singer-songwriter. Maybe he just lacks confidence.

The more you say about this the less you make sense. 

digitalkettle

Litterick said:

digitalkettle said:

Why is this so moving...

Because we yearn for belonging. See also: Elbow performing One Day Like This at Glastonbury 2011.

I missed off the 'rhetorical question' emoji

I've been in an Elbow crowd (admittedly not as large as Glasto) and it was a lovely experience. Fan since forever...and that track is pretty worn out for me...but it does work!

blueskunk

My old man reckons he’s re invented guitar tunings. 

Philly_Q

Brad said:

Whilst musical talent doesn’t equate to good songs (that’s in the ear of the beholder after all), give me a Jacob Collier over an Ed Sheeran (who I actually have a begrudging respect for ) every day of the week. 

And maybe, at last, there's something we can all agree on.

Lewy

blueskunk said:

My old man reckons he’s re invented guitar tunings. 

Does he wear a guitar tunings inventor’s hat?

digitalkettle

Lewy said:

blueskunk said:

My old man reckons he’s re invented guitar tunings. 

Does he wear a guitar tunings inventor’s hat?

A capo?

SimonC

Litterick said:

thecolourbox said:

Litterick said:

We are told he has reinvented guitar tuning, yet he plays with a capo.

What's wrong with a capo? 

Nothing. I use one, to make intervals that are beyond my reach. But I do not see why he would need one, since his intervals are not unusual and he does not strum like a singer-songwriter. Maybe he just lacks confidence.

Ah I see how you use it now:

stickyfiddle

stickyfiddle said:

I haven't read past page 4 and I haven't listened to much JC because it's not really my bag, but he's unquestionably a man of immense talent. I actually really like watching him talk about music, more than I enjoy listening to it. That "5 ways to play" video is incredible and honestly I feel sad for folks who can't admit that. 

I also don't particularly enjoy Bach or Coltrane but I don't go around saying they were shit - that's obvious bumfluffery.

To update... I have now watched the video with Davids and it's exceptional musician youtubery imo. Davids is always great and Collier's enthusiasm is exceptional 

Apart from anything else, I'm gonna have to try that tuning  

sev112

He doesn’t say he has invented anything - it is other people (guitarists) saying he has invented something

he is not a guitarist, and came to  guitar tunings using other instruments’ tunings as his starting point.   Most standard guitarists would not have come across them.  He came very late to the standard EADGBE tuning

elstoof

Huh. Clickbait YouTube titles actually work, who knew 

merlin

digitalkettle said:

Of course, he samples it at some point and it appears on a subsequent record...

I hope he either 
a) got them to sign a release form, or
b) paid them royalties