Labour MP Shot and Stabbed!!

Cirrus

Very sad PM on radio 4 as I drove home - they were interviewing a couple of people who knew her well when the news came in, and they both had to deal with it live on air. No way could I have done that.

fretmeister

Cirrus said:

Very sad PM on radio 4 as I drove home - they were interviewing a couple of people who knew her well when the news came in, and they both had to deal with it live on air. No way could I have done that.

Did a newsreader tell them on air?

That would be cuntish behaviour of the highest order.

EricTheWeary

Just heard it on the R2 news. Awful. They seem to have got him but what a shocking thing.

chillidoggy

Astonishing. And so sad. It matters not that she was a campaigning MP, it just shouldn't happen, and I hope the twisted bastard that killed her suffers.

fretmeister

octatonic said:

digitalscream said:

Yep, it's pretty awful.

Of course, I've already had the Americans on my FB feed - "See? Told you gun restrictions don't work!". I couldn't even summon the energy to explain it, so I just unfriended them. It's surprising how effective that is.

How idiotic and insensitive (not you, the Americans).

It has been reported that the gunman shouted 'Britain First' but it is unconfirmed at the moment.

Aye - seems to be about a 50 / 50 split on whether he said anything at all.

Fretwired

Was she the intended target? Eye witness said the murderer was in a scuffle with another man when the MP intervened ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304

littlegreenman

Fretwired said:

Was she the intended target? Eye witness said the murder was in a scuffle with another man when the MP intervened ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304

From the early eye-witness reports it does seem that she intervened in an already ongoing altercation, and may have simply been trying to help out, in the wrong place, at very much the wrong time.Tragic.

iseverynamegone

Bloke is a white supremacist Nutjob.

Poor poor lady and family.

What the fuck is wrong with folk.

RIP.

richardhomer

fretmeister;1113215" said:

Did a newsreader tell them on air?

No - they cut live to the Police Press Conference - which was the first time her death had been announced. It was harrowing listening - the presenter struggled to keep it together - but was exceptionally sensitive and kind to Jo Cox's friends. Under very difficult circumstances, I thought she did an exceptional job.

This must rank as one of the saddest news stories I can remember. I had no idea who she was before today but have just heard her maiden parliamentary speech broadcast in full on the radio - regardless of your political persuasions - she sounded like an exceptional talent.

My condolences to her family.

Blueingreen

fretmeister said:

Cirrus said:

Very sad PM on radio 4 as I drove home - they were interviewing a couple of people who knew her well when the news came in, and they both had to deal with it live on air. No way could I have done that.

Did a newsreader tell them on air?

That would be cuntish behaviour of the highest order.

But sadly not in least bit surprising in an age when getting people in extreme emotional pain to parade their feelings in public is considered "good journalism".

hugbot

Fretwired said:

Was she the intended target? Eye witness said the murderer was in a scuffle with another man when the MP intervened ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304

That doesen't sound likely to be honest. Firstly an MPs surgery is one of the most obvious places you'd go to target them knowing they'd be there at that specified time. Secondly carrying a homemade gun indicates intent which, he then shot at only at her-repeatedly.

Fretwired

hugbot said:

Fretwired said:

Was she the intended target? Eye witness said the murderer was in a scuffle with another man when the MP intervened ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304

That doesen't sound likely to be honest. Firstly an MPs surgery is one of the most obvious places you'd go to target them knowing they'd be there at that specified time. Secondly carrying a homemade gun indicates intent which, he then shot at only at her-repeatedly.

Valid points .. very sad all the same.

EDIT: it seems the gunman had a history of mental health issues.

thermionic

Fretwired said:

Was she the intended target? Eye witness said the murderer was in a scuffle with another man when the MP intervened ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36550304

I thought I'd heard this at one point as well. The internet has already decided what his motives were though - but we can't deny that the referendum debate has been poisoned by hate for immigration.

Either way, what an absolute tragedy and a waste of a good life.

ICBM

It may not have been home-made - it could have been something vintage and fairly primitive. If you've ever handled a WWII Sten sub-machinegun it's astonishing how crude and DIY it looks - little more than a few bits of pipe welded together - and yet they were manufactured in tens of thousands.

My guess if it was capable of firing more than one shot is that it wasn't home-made.

But your point still stands - carrying a gun to an MP's office at all indicates intent against the MP, I think.

littlegreenman

ICBM said:

It may not have been home-made - it could have been something vintage and fairly primitive. If you've ever handled a WWII Sten sub-machinegun it's astonishing how crude and DIY it looks - little more than a few bits of pipe welded together - and yet they were manufactured in tens of thousands.

My guess if it was capable of firing more than one shot is that it wasn't home-made.

But your point still stands - carrying a gun to an MP's office at all indicates intent against the MP, I think.

One of the eye-witnesses said it looked "old-fashioned", and as you say if it can fire repeatedly, unlikely to be home made.

As for a motive, we'll have to wait and see.

A young life lost, and from her maiden speech in Parliament, one that had a great deal of promise.

Sambostar

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richardhomer

Sambostar;1113349" said:

The guy was a nut by all accounts then, but I don't think she should be martyred, which will no doubt follow in the press no doubt.   Feel terrible for her family and kids, but at the end of the day she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.  Ordinary women with a family.  What a wanker. She isn't a martyr though and it's no more shocking than any other women getting stabbed and shot at the end of the day.  She was just a bloody civil servant.  Just sad.  Hope it doesn't drag on in the press.  Wait for the sycophantic speeches to come though.  Puke.

You're truly one of the most sensitive men in the world, aren't you?

When I say 'sensitive' - perhaps I meant 'pissed'....

Mkjackary

It will be a bloody coincidence if the guy killed her just by chance. More likely it was an attack on her because she was an MP.

Shooting someone 3 times and stabbing them 6 times is an act of passion, not something that happens if you are in "the wrong place at the wrong time"

Chalky

Incredibly sad for her kids, husband and family. I don't mind what the press will say - she was still a mother, wife, daughter and sister who was cruelly slaughtered. A horrible, terrible act.

capo4th

How bizarre ?!? What were his motives ?