Several of us have seen the film, so time for a thread to discuss the film in details - including spoilers. If you have NOT seen teh film and don't want to be spoiled, LOOK AWAY NOW!
....seriously.
OK, so several questions I had after seeing it last night:
1. Palpatine... erm how? I feel the fact he's in this is just a knee-jerk reaction by Disney to try and sate the angry fan-base after TLJ. It kind of makes Anakin's whole redemption arc pointless
2. So the Skywalkers lose, and the Palpatines win? OK then...
3. What was Finn going to tell Rey that he never said? I'm assuming it was that he loves her....?
4. Where did they get all the crew for the new Super-Duper Star Destroyers from?
5. Whoever is in charge of the Imperial / First Order / Final Order Weapons of Mass Destruction manufacturing and planning needs to remember they need multiple points of safety failovers.
Comments
I mean the bit about them having to land on the ship in order to destroy the tower? Why? just shoot it with a ship....It seems a bit silly.
As for the how a Palpatine? Well when two people love each other or are really drunk they someti... but seriously he was a senator for a long time and presumably had a 'normal' life before Phantom Menace, even if it was a facade. Presumably a family was part of that facade? I didn't mind this plot one bit.
I enjoyed how bad the obvious attempts to quash the Finn and Poe romantic theory were.
I enjoyed the film - far from perfect and some people have commented how it suffered for being built around existing deleted footage from TFA but I thought they did a good job considering this limitation.
The ending really?
Besides, it was acceptable for Voldemort to disappear for 20 years and find a way back!
Yeah how is that dude still alive? Unless what he learnt from Darth Plagueis allowed him to prevent his own death? I mean you saw him thrown down a massive hole but don't see him die.
I'll be honest I think his inclusion is to please fans of the original trilogy. Not going to lie I watched TFA hoping there was some Rey link to the original trilogy to make it worth while. The best I could come up with at the time was that she was a Palpatine but I sort of dismissed it as naff...
What annoys me the most though is that whenever you point out these massive plot holes, you always get people respond with "it's answered in the comics / TV shows / Xmas special / tea cosy". You shouldn't have to rely on other things to plug the plot holes; they should be used to enrich the story, NOT as a requirement. Just seems very lazy.
On the plus side - good to see Wicket E. Warwick back!
EDIT - Another thing I've just remembered; the choreography for the lightsaber fights..... my God. I wasn't a fan of the prequel trilogy choreography, but it would have been nice if they at least had some skill instead of just using brute force and telegraphing their moves.
is it crazy how saying sentences backwards creates backwards sentences saying how crazy it is?
Yes there are plot holes. Yes the lightsabre fights aren’t as dramatic as others and damn, why did we need fucking ewoks?
But it’s a Star Wars film and it took my back to watching the original with my Nan when I was seven.
In the "we won because we had each other" bit, I couldn't help think "they won because they had a fucking ewok army!!
It was supposed to be the end of a 40 year old saga, but instead we got a Disney mystery with Star Wars characters (if you can call them that), a side mission that took up the first half of the film, and a final act that was utterly woeful. There wasn’t a single shot that took my breath away and the screenplay was poorly written. Really lazy filmmaking and rather forgettable.
It amazes me how these reputable directors don’t know how to end things properly. Give me a meaningful ending that leaves a mark, not some clumsy “wtf?!” ham-fisted offering.
£12 and two and bit hours down the drain.