Mr Bates Vs The Post Office

Reverend · May 3

TTony said:

To summarise the evidence of Jarnail Singh (POL lawyer) so far this morning ...

"I don't recall that, I wasn't aware".

He's being crucified. He doesn't deserve such an easy exit.

"You weren't a details man, were you?"

Offset · May 3

I'm watching Singh's grilling by Jason Beer on catchup. I thought Van Den Bogerd had already achieved an unassailable nadir when it came to a performance under cross-examination, but my word... Singh is getting taken apart by Beer. An absolutely shambolic and totally unconvincing appearance.

"You were covering up your own guilty knowledge Mr Singh" - ouch.

"I wasn't aware" will be his epitaph.

* EDIT - "In 2010, I didn't know how to save a document on my computer."

HAL9000 · May 3

Was amnesia a job requirement for senior POL management back then?

Offset · May 3

HAL9000 said:

Was amnesia a job requirement for senior POL management back then?

I think 'being a venal, mendacious cnut' may well have been.

guitars4you · May 14

So Mark Davies got grilled today - Former public relations officer

'He is asked if he ever considered the possibility that the Post Office were the baddies'

In a round about way it is the obvious question I would have asked many times, to those who have been questioned in the inquiry

Did the PO not think it unusual that they had effectively 'employed/sub-contracted' out over '400 criminals' - Did the PO think that was not unusual - In effect who was tasked to check the 'credibility' of these 'criminals' as/when they undertook the appropriate posts as 'sub postmasters' - How many would they expect to be 'rogue' - 5/10 maybe - But surely they would not to hand the keys to over 400 rogue sub postmasters - Did that not raise any thoughts

Interesting to note that Davies said reports were submitted, as required, to government ministers - Inc Jo Swinson - I dare say we'll never get to know how much further than the 'immediate' postal affairs ministers, that questions were asked and matters raised - Be it under the Blair government or Cameron etc

Looks like Paula Vennels will be quizzed next week

Offset · May 14

guitars4you said:

Looks like Paula Vennels will be quizzed next week

That will be absolutely essential viewing. Twiglets and pinot grigio at the ready.

TTony · May 14

Offset said:

guitars4you said:

Looks like Paula Vennels will be quizzed next week

That will be absolutely essential viewing.

Given her strong Christian beliefs and morals, I expect her to admit full responsibility, to defend her exec as only carrying out her orders and to ask to be taken out back and flogged. Following which she will donate all her earthly possessions to those that were wronged, and undertake to do unpaid community work for the rest of her natural life.

Either that, or she’ll not be able to remember, will say that she relied on the advice and guidance of experts, and repeat “if only I’d known that at the time”.

Place your bets now …

fretmeister · May 14

Legend.

Offset · May 22

Mr Beer is going to work on Paula Vennells. Some very incriminating emails making a star turn early on. It isn't looking good for her.

guitars4you · May 22

Offset said:

Mr Beer is going to work on Paula Vennells. Some very incriminating emails making a star turn early on. It isn't looking good for her.

Busy now but will dial in shortly

TTony · May 22

In her position, not sure I'd have turned up with the noose already around my neck ...

Offset · May 22

TTony said:

In her position, not sure I'd have turned up with the noose already around my neck ...

It's painful. And now she's in tears. I can't figure out if she was asleep at the wheel for the duration of her tenure, in denial, or simply willing to do whatever it took - including allowing innocent people to go to jail - to protect the PO's reputation.

crosstownvamp · May 22

Her conviction that the PO and Horizon were above board and kosher (if I can use that word) does tally somewhat with her religious convictions. Blind faith is all that's needed.

She's smoothing over everything as if she's a very thoughtful reasonable person who's only just learnt about these dreadful events.

guitars4you · May 22

"You're right and I didn't," Vennells replies. But she adds that "if you don't know something exists, it's difficult to ask questions about it".

This I don't know reminds me of Rumsfeld/Cheney with their 'there are known knowns and known unknowns' etc

guitars4you · May 22

I bet Beer woke up this morning with a massive hard on thinking about how much he was looking forward to today

randella · May 22

guitars4you said:

"You're right and I didn't," Vennells replies. But she adds that "if you don't know something exists, it's difficult to ask questions about it".
This I don't know reminds me of Rumsfeld/Cheney with their 'there are known knowns and known unknowns' etc

It's word salad, isn't it?

"I have been disappointed, particularly more recently, listening to evidence of the inquiry, where I think I have learned that people knew more than perhaps either they remembered at the time or I knew at the time."

Either you knew or you didn't. Honestly can't figure the woman out, a very odd character.

Kittyfrisk · May 22

guitars4you said:

I bet Beer woke up this morning with a massive hard on thinking about how much he was looking forward to today

Not with Vennells... *cringe*.

guitars4you · May 22

Kittyfrisk said:

guitars4you said:

I bet Beer woke up this morning with a massive hard on thinking about how much he was looking forward to today

Not with Vennells... *cringe*.

point taken and made me smile

Offset · May 22

Fuck me this is brutal.

randella · May 22

Can't really argue with this:

https://twitter.com/CWUnews/status/1793229798589755830

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