The Theresa May General Election thread (edited)

Octafish

Bucket said:

Sporky said:

Surely given that she called an early general election with the intention of boosting her majority, and instead lost it entirely, May is now the Irony Lady?

And that she and her supporters spent weeks on end calling Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser, when she's just made a deal with former Irish paramilitary group, and religious bigot squad, the DUP?

...and they were banging on about Labour and a coalition of chaos, which is the best the Tories can hope for themselves now  

Fretwired

Osborne's revenge .. the various editions ...

capo4th

marantz1300 said:

capo4th said:

Winny_Pooh said:

capo4th said:

Corbyn did convince a lot of inexperienced young people to vote Labour with a fantasy wish list manifesto.

Social media has played a big part I genuinely believe that the vast majority of his manifesto would never have got off the ground if he had been elected. 

Too far fetched and disasterous for business but many people believed him and his policies.

Now you're a business expert too?

Yes mate that's why I earn a large salary, vote Tory and would have been clobbered by Labours tax plans

that says it all
I'm alright jack ,fuck everyone else
greed and selfishness
the tory mantra

Don't pretend to know me Mr Marantz. You have no idea what myself and my wife do with charity fundraising and what I personally donate to charity / good causes.  I also give back a huge amount of my personal time to my local community. 

Don't be bitter.

capo4th

Fretwired said:

Osborne's revenge .. the various editions ...

He is clearly porking May 4 ways 

Sporky

capo4th said:

myself and my wife

GAH.

That is going too far.

"My wife and I"

For fuck's sake.

Hoof

Fretwired said:

ICBM said:

Not sure if anyone has mentioned him so far, but I'd suggest Michael Fallon as a potential successor. I don't like him - he's the nuclear first strike nut - but in the campaign he was one of the most visible Tories and probably the steadiest. He's 65 so wouldn't be a long-term replacement, but right now that's probably the least of their worries.

Bookies are going for Boris ... Fallon's too old .. the Tories could end up with 4 leaders in 5-7 years if he decides to quit in his early 70s.

Boris would make us a global laughing stock. The man is a Kim Jong calibre joke.

Fretwired

The Tory remainers have stuck their heads over the parapet and told May and told they won't back a hard Brexit or one which excludes access to the single market.

Len McCluskey expects an election early next year.

Octafish

Hoof said:

Fretwired said:

ICBM said:

Not sure if anyone has mentioned him so far, but I'd suggest Michael Fallon as a potential successor. I don't like him - he's the nuclear first strike nut - but in the campaign he was one of the most visible Tories and probably the steadiest. He's 65 so wouldn't be a long-term replacement, but right now that's probably the least of their worries.

Bookies are going for Boris ... Fallon's too old .. the Tories could end up with 4 leaders in 5-7 years if he decides to quit in his early 70s.

Boris would make us a global laughing stock. The man is a Kim Jong calibre joke.

Yep, another pile of shit wrapped in skin who will fuck the country over just like Cameron and May did for their own selfish personal and career needs

capo4th

Sporky said:

capo4th said:

myself and my wife

GAH.

That is going too far.

"My wife and I"

For fuck's sake.

Typing and grammar have never been a strength of mine you got the jist 

scrumhalf

marantz1300 said:

that says it all
I'm alright jack ,fuck everyone else
greed and selfishness
the tory mantra

Hmmm.

As opposed to
Let's give free stuff to everyone
Let's tax the fuck out of people we consider to be rich and blame them for all of our problems so that we feel better
Let's put everything on credit
Let's have a leader who has been bought by the unions, supports terrorists and considers Venezuela to be a socialist heaven
Let's have a Chancellor who would like to disband the security services
Let's have a Home Secretary who is pompous, racist and unable to master he brief.

Oooh. stereotypes are FUN.

capo4th

Fretwired said:

The Tory remainers have stuck their heads over the parapet and told May and told they won't back a hard Brexit or one which excludes access to the single market.

Len McCluskey expects an election early next year.

Brexit could be a thing of the past 

Bridgehouse

I think it would be a good time for us to all have a good reflection on what happened yesterday/this morning. Let's not jump to conclusions, or be too harsh to anyone in particular on here at the moment.

My opinion:

- We, the electorate are the only winners here. Why?
1. The Tories took the electorate for granted and we stuck two fingers up to that
2. Labour played a blinder, but let us not forget, they still did not get their point across strongly enough to have enough seats to form a government.
3. Lib Dems have been revealed to not be strong enough in the centre. We need a centre and they are not doing a good enough job
4. SNP have been given short shrift - been told to do their job and shut up about indyref2
5. The electorate has said we will not tolerate a cooked up hard brexit, but we are asking the politicians to use their brains and do the best they can for all of us
6. UKIP has been told they are irrelevant and should shut up

We are tired of self serving politicians from all parties and are fed up with weakly constructed policies and arguments. We have said as much. It is a salutary lesson for all politicians of all parties. No party should be proud of yesterday. I know many are saying Labour should be, but with such a dismal campaign by the Tories it has shown that the electorate is still not convinced by their now-more-left policies and their budgetary maths. 

In my personal view, we need politicians of all parties to put differences aside and work together to ensure a strong Britain post Brexit. Labour, SNP, Lib Dems etc should all use the opportunity to influence the Tories in their views, get a proper debate on the table, and come to a good Brexit consensus and actually provide a strong negotiating stance in Europe.

Will they? Well, it's time to see if they have the mettle to do it. Will the Tories listen? If they don't then they deserve another kicking.

capo4th

scrumhalf said:

marantz1300 said:

that says it all
I'm alright jack ,fuck everyone else
greed and selfishness
the tory mantra

Hmmm.

As opposed to
Let's give free stuff to everyone
Let's tax the fuck out of people we consider to be rich and blame them for all of our problems so that we feel better
Let's put everything on credit
Let's have a leader who has been bought by the unions, supports terrorists and considers Venezuela to be a socialist heaven
Let's have a Chancellor who would like to disband the security services
Let's have a Home Secretary who is pompous, racist and unable to master he brief.

Oooh. stereotypes are FUN.

Well put scrumhalf 

Fretwired

DUP say no deal has been agreed. They are in talks.

Jalapeno

Bridgehouse said:

I think it would be a good time for us to all have a good reflection on what happened yesterday/this morning. Let's not jump to conclusions, or be too harsh to anyone in particular on here at the moment.

My opinion:

- We, the electorate are the only winners here. Why?
1. The Tories took the electorate for granted and we stuck two fingers up to that
2. Labour played a blinder, but let us not forget, they still did not get their point across strongly enough to have enough seats to form a government.
3. Lib Dems have been revealed to not be strong enough in the centre. We need a centre and they are not doing a good enough job
4. SNP have been given short shrift - been told to do their job and shut up about indyref2
5. The electorate has said we will not tolerate a cooked up hard brexit, but we are asking the politicians to use their brains and do the best they can for all of us
6. UKIP has been told they are irrelevant and should shut up

We are tired of self serving politicians from all parties and are fed up with weakly constructed policies and arguments. We have said as much. It is a salutary lesson for all politicians of all parties. No party should be proud of yesterday. I know many are saying Labour should be, but with such a dismal campaign by the Tories it has shown that the electorate is still not convinced by their now-more-left policies and their budgetary maths. 

In my personal view, we need politicians of all parties to put differences aside and work together to ensure a strong Britain post Brexit. Labour, SNP, Lib Dems etc should all use the opportunity to influence the Tories in their views, get a proper debate on the table, and come to a good Brexit consensus and actually provide a strong negotiating stance in Europe.

Will they? Well, it's time to see if they have the mettle to do it. Will the Tories listen? If they don't then they deserve another kicking.

Yep !

rawk100

we need politicians of all parties to put differences aside and work together to ensure a strong Britain post Brexit. 

I agree.......you can dream up all the manifestos you want but without a strong economy to support it you're a bit buggered!...

Jalapeno

Fretwired said:

DUP say no deal has been agreed. They are in talks.

And so it begins ...... full on Machiavellian "proper" politics

underdog

capo4th said:

scrumhalf said:

marantz1300 said:

that says it all
I'm alright jack ,fuck everyone else
greed and selfishness
the tory mantra

Hmmm.

As opposed to
Let's give free stuff to everyone
Let's tax the fuck out of people we consider to be rich and blame them for all of our problems so that we feel better
Let's put everything on credit
Let's have a leader who has been bought by the unions, supports terrorists and considers Venezuela to be a socialist heaven
Let's have a Chancellor who would like to disband the security services
Let's have a Home Secretary who is pompous, racist and unable to master he brief.

Oooh. stereotypes are FUN.

Well put scrumhalf 

Apart from the fact that little of what he listed is a stereotype but exaggerated opinions on a single person, not a standard set of "rules" used to blanket persons of a certain type ie "all short people are angry" or "all Welsh people have sexual intercourse with farm animals"

scrumhalf

underdog said:

Apart from the fact that little of what he listed is a stereotype but exaggerated opinions on a single person, not a standard set of "rules" used to blanket persons of a certain type ie "all short people are angry" or "all Welsh people have sexual intercourse with farm animals"

You say that as if the post I was responding to was a statement of fact.

Cirrus

rawk100 said:

we need politicians of all parties to put differences aside and work together to ensure a strong Britain post Brexit. 

I agree.......you can dream up all the manifestos you want but without a strong economy to support it you're a bit buggered!...

I agree - this is the exact reason conservative economics typically don't work.