Football - Euro 2020 Championship

ewal

UnclePsychosis said:

crunchman said:

 The Czechs looked weak when we ran at them with the ball on the ground, but for some reason we chose not to do that, over and over again. When Adams came on he clearly worried them - I do wonder if it would have been different if he'd started. 

It reminded me of some of the earlier games when Dykes appeared - "right lads we're playing one big guy up front so long ball automatically becomes plan A", therefore minimising the contribution made by the players capable of doing damage - very disappointing...

Fingers crossed we get a chance to see what this team can do with  a fully fit Tierney, although have major doubts that we will. We also need to find a formation which maximises contribution of Armstrong and Forrest 

UnclePsychosis

sev112 said:

Goalkeepers tend to run backwards /sideways when they have been lobbed like this, when to gain the extra fraction of seconds they need to  sprint and then turn towards the end.
Howvere Marshall did in fact sprint directly back to his goal and still couldn’t get there, showing how good the shot was and how far out he was.  

With hindsight it wasn’t a case of giving the ball away, it was a deflection from a shot at goal

Was an absolutely needless shot on goal though. He had much better options all around him. 

UnclePsychosis

ewal said:

UnclePsychosis said:

crunchman said:

 The Czechs looked weak when we ran at them with the ball on the ground, but for some reason we chose not to do that, over and over again. When Adams came on he clearly worried them - I do wonder if it would have been different if he'd started. 

It reminded me of some of the earlier games when Dykes appeared - "right lads we're playing one big guy up front so long ball automatically becomes plan A", therefore minimising the contribution made by the players capable of doing damage - very disappointing...

Fingers crossed we get a chance to see what this team can do with  a fully fit Tierney, although have major doubts that we will. We also need to find a formation which maximises contribution of Armstrong and Forrest 

Indeed.

The more I think about it, the more I think the problem was that without Tierney, the back three had no out ball. The Czechs sat on McTominay, which forced our back three to try and find a different pass - and none of them are good enough on the ball to make that work consistently.

Definitely convinced that Scotland's problems are setup/coaching related overall. We have a crop of some fantastic individual players, but we seem to consistently underperform - the team is less than the sum of its parts. 

Hattigol

DefaultM said:

Today's main bet is 1.5 points on Poland and Spain both to win at 7/4, Betfred shop. Real is 6/4.

Pro tip: If you call your money 'points' you can pretend you're not a degenerate.

Any other, ahem, pro tips?
Hoping you're strongly backing Scotland on Friday...

DefaultM

Heartfeltdawn said:

DefaultM said:

This is interesting did you just find it yourself on betfair or are you following some alerts? I did similar with tennis last week, where if the fave was down a set I'd back them or lay the other player. I just ended up securing myself a few pounds once they started to come back, but if I'd left them to run they'd have all fully won so I've been thinking about it.

Nah, I stick Bet365 up and just follow some stuff as it happens. Never really betted before, started this year with a tenner on the Grand National, won nowt on that and had a fiver left, and turned that fiver into £500 in three weeks. Promptly made more more, lost £150 in a week, and decided to stop with a +£500 profit. Now it's small bets for the most part, nowt above £3 bar that Slovakia effort. Actually find women's football quite good to bet on for how I want to do things as it's less unpredictable than the men's game. Far less shock results so you don't get the crazy odds winners but things like goals per half tend to be quite predictable. Following a league (I bet a lot on the Queensland Womens Premier League), you get a feeling for how teams do and I like the QPL as many games are televised. All part of my jobless summer!

The women's PL sounds like something you might be able to get yourself a bit of an edge on the market on, if it's something you know a lot about. It's not going to be something that the bookies have got a lot of knowledge on, so I'm sure the odds are sometimes higher than they should be on certain things. 
There are people that specialise in things like 2nd league Norwegian football and Chinese basketball that make a fair amount cos of this.

DefaultM

Hattigol said:

DefaultM said:

Today's main bet is 1.5 points on Poland and Spain both to win at 7/4, Betfred shop. Real is 6/4.

Pro tip: If you call your money 'points' you can pretend you're not a degenerate.

Any other, ahem, pro tips?
Hoping you're strongly backing Scotland on Friday...

I'll bet on anything where the odds are higher than they should be as that's the only way to win long term. If those teams both won I would have had an extra £1 winnings for every £4 staked compared to the true odds.
Scotland are 11/1 at the minute, so if someone was offering 14/1 for example I'll take it regardless of what I think might happen in the match.

DefaultM

I'd probably only put a fiver on them though...

https://i.imgur.com/G5RkEM1.jpg 

guitars4you

Portugal kit looks horrible

reminds me of the days of Eddie Warring and up 'n' under - Swinton v Hunslet and Featherstone Rovers v Batley

guitars4you

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1TF133p2lF7wBMnzNSkh6t7/play-radio-2s-football-anthems-quiz

Quick football song quiz - I only got 6/11

sev112

guitars4you said:

Portugal kit looks horrible

reminds me of the days of Eddie Warring and up 'n' under - Swinton v Hunslet and Featherstone Rovers v Batley

I thought the opposite, best so far  
pretty boring otherwise, but half of them are in their change kit

lookimg forward to seeing then Ukraine map kit

sweepy

My money so far would be
 on Italy 

rze99

A German own goal is no laughing matter. 

No, stop it. 

cj73

I might have laughed Just the once but I think I got away with it 

sweepy

France look awesome it has to de said 

russpm

Man Utd fans must be baffled, Pogba looks awesome for France

guitars4you

France looked very tight at the back - Not seen the best of them tonight going forward, other than the 2 disallowed goals on the break - But they did what they needed to do and I'm sure more will come from them - Sure m.o.m will be Kante 

TeleMaster

France look menacing on the counter attack. Germany look like they're ageing. 

EricTheWeary

Saw the second half and the goal only as a hilight. France had two disallowed goals that were such attractive football, bit of a shame they didn’t stand. From what I saw there were moments when France looked fully in control and if they can be a bit more consistent they will still be the favourites. 

sweepy

France are an amazing team, reminded me of Arsenal in their heyday, pace, crisp passing and very attractive football all round . I’d never rule Germany out as they have a habit of growing into a competition and grind their way to at least the Semi’s 

russpm

France look good but Germany had a some decent chances so there is hope against the French.