So who is looking forward to the Olympics

Philtheguitar

sev112 said:

I must admit it would help to clarify

Clarify what? 

Offset

Philtheguitar said:

Offset said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

You've lost me, sorry.  Please expand...

What don't you understand?
EDIT - My comment was relating to the boxing

What don't I understand?  Female abuse being an Olympic sport.  It's a wee bit of a stretch I must say.  A regulatory nightmare for sure as pointed out earlier.  But abuse?

Philtheguitar

Offset said:

Philtheguitar said:

Offset said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

You've lost me, sorry.  Please expand...

What don't you understand?
EDIT - My comment was relating to the boxing

What don't I understand?  Female abuse being an Olympic sport.  It's a wee bit of a stretch I must say.  A regulatory nightmare for sure as pointed out earlier.  But abuse?

Making women go up against men in the ring is barbaric. End of. 

swiller

Philtheguitar said:

Offset said:

Philtheguitar said:

Offset said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

You've lost me, sorry.  Please expand...

What don't you understand?
EDIT - My comment was relating to the boxing

What don't I understand?  Female abuse being an Olympic sport.  It's a wee bit of a stretch I must say.  A regulatory nightmare for sure as pointed out earlier.  But abuse?

Making women go up against men in the ring is barbaric. End of. 

agreed, its a terrible decision. 

mrkb

Iamnobody said:

Philtheguitar said:

mrkb said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

Is it any different to watching a male hit a male or a female hit a female?

Yes, it absolutely is. 

Massively, outside heavyweight, we don’t let boxers fight each other when there’s a disparity of weight by a few pounds. 

Allowing males to fight females is simply dangerous and wrong even at the same weight class. 

Whether the world likes it or not, males have greater natural power and strength than females.

All boxing is dangerous, the tragedy of Michael Watson shows that.

swiller

mrkb said:

Iamnobody said:

Philtheguitar said:

mrkb said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

Is it any different to watching a male hit a male or a female hit a female?

Yes, it absolutely is. 

Massively, outside heavyweight, we don’t let boxers fight each other when there’s a disparity of weight by a few pounds. 

Allowing males to fight females is simply dangerous and wrong even at the same weight class. 

Whether the world likes it or not, males have greater natural power and strength than females.

All boxing is dangerous, the tragedy of Michael Watson shows that.

why do you think a man fighting a woman is the same as man vs man?

Philtheguitar

mrkb said:

Iamnobody said:

Philtheguitar said:

mrkb said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

Is it any different to watching a male hit a male or a female hit a female?

Yes, it absolutely is. 

Massively, outside heavyweight, we don’t let boxers fight each other when there’s a disparity of weight by a few pounds. 

Allowing males to fight females is simply dangerous and wrong even at the same weight class. 

Whether the world likes it or not, males have greater natural power and strength than females.

All boxing is dangerous, the tragedy of Michael Watson shows that.

Yes, it is dangerous. What's your point? 

mrkb

swiller said:

mrkb said:

Iamnobody said:

Philtheguitar said:

mrkb said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

Is it any different to watching a male hit a male or a female hit a female?

Yes, it absolutely is. 

Massively, outside heavyweight, we don’t let boxers fight each other when there’s a disparity of weight by a few pounds. 

Allowing males to fight females is simply dangerous and wrong even at the same weight class. 

Whether the world likes it or not, males have greater natural power and strength than females.

All boxing is dangerous, the tragedy of Michael Watson shows that.

why do you think a man fighting a woman is the same as man vs man?

Theyre all setting out to try to knock each other out - so its wrong no matter whos punching who. Why do you think its acceptable?

swiller

mrkb said:

swiller said:

mrkb said:

Iamnobody said:

Philtheguitar said:

mrkb said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

Is it any different to watching a male hit a male or a female hit a female?

Yes, it absolutely is. 

Massively, outside heavyweight, we don’t let boxers fight each other when there’s a disparity of weight by a few pounds. 

Allowing males to fight females is simply dangerous and wrong even at the same weight class. 

Whether the world likes it or not, males have greater natural power and strength than females.

All boxing is dangerous, the tragedy of Michael Watson shows that.

why do you think a man fighting a woman is the same as man vs man?

Theyre all setting out to try to knock each other out - so its wrong no matter whos punching who. Why do you think its acceptable?

Sorry u r missing the point. consent of each fighter? on a fair level playing field?, including weight, sex and thus chance of winning.  The vast majority of the boxing community see it as a scandal. 

Iamnobody

mrkb said:

Iamnobody said:

Philtheguitar said:

mrkb said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

Is it any different to watching a male hit a male or a female hit a female?

Yes, it absolutely is. 

Massively, outside heavyweight, we don’t let boxers fight each other when there’s a disparity of weight by a few pounds. 

Allowing males to fight females is simply dangerous and wrong even at the same weight class. 

Whether the world likes it or not, males have greater natural power and strength than females.

All boxing is dangerous, the tragedy of Michael Watson shows that.

It is a dangerous sport. Lots of sports are. Thankfully boxing is usually fully regulated to ensure that the majority of bouts see evenly matched competitors. 

Not sure why you can’t see this. 

EricTheWeary

Had the Olympic coverage on BBC1 and they did a short VT about the boxing controversy. I don’t like boxing, I don’t watch it. But the argument was that if there are two people in the ring and one is significantly stronger than the other then the chances of the weaker boxer getting seriously hurt are very high. 

Found the BMX racing heats on iPlayer. As always it does look like people who have borrowed their kid’s bikes but then some scarey arse riding commences and it’s all quite exciting. So far it seems to be coming down to who is the fastest Frenchman. 

swiller

good luck michelle tyson in the womens heavyweight final this evening.

Offset

Philtheguitar said:

Offset said:

Philtheguitar said:

Offset said:

Philtheguitar said:

Nice to see that female abuse is now an Olympic sport. How progressive. How stunning and brave. 

You've lost me, sorry.  Please expand...

What don't you understand?
EDIT - My comment was relating to the boxing

What don't I understand?  Female abuse being an Olympic sport.  It's a wee bit of a stretch I must say.  A regulatory nightmare for sure as pointed out earlier.  But abuse?

Making women go up against men in the ring is barbaric. End of. 

But she isn't a man FFS.

CavemanGrogg

The boxing was a very very hard 26 seconds to watch.  It was thankfully nowhere near as brutal as the MMA fight between a trans women and a women - be warned if you YouTube this fight there's a reason why I'm not posting it, it is beyond utter brutality and frankly is a smack to the face of every anti-violence towards women policy there has ever been.

Philtheguitar

@Offset I thought they were a 'trans woman'? 

sinbaadi

Such a minefield to talk to anyone about this, but it will be the end of female participation in any sports unless a sub category is created which protects them.   

There's a bizarre reluctance to accept that being born a male would give a physical advantage over a female.  It's the Serena Williams-John McEnroe thing again and the naivety and stupidity which his comments faced has been exploited by some sportspeople.

Aware that this isn't the exact case here but with two young daughters I would like it if they had a world of sport that was taken seriously.

Gandalph

 sinbaadi said:

Such a minefield to talk to anyone about this, but it will be the end of female participation in any sports unless a sub category is created which protects them.   

There's a bizarre reluctance to accept that being born a male would give a physical advantage over a female.  It's the Serena Williams-John McEnroe thing again and the naivety and stupidity which his comments faced has been exploited by some sportspeople.

Aware that this isn't the exact case here but with two young daughters I would like it if they had a world of sport that was taken seriously.

Wis'd.

Imagine if all the female participants stood up together and walked away from this particular tournament. 

Then they'd be fucked and reforms would have to be made. Force their hand. 

I usually enjoy the Olympics but I've not watched any of it this time around. I draw the line at a convicted paedophile being given carte blanche to participate. 

It's just plain wrong.
lines have to be drawn imo. 

We live in a crazy world, people are so scared nowadays to say the wrong thing for fear of offending. Myself included.
I'm working on that. Spiced rum helps  

UnclePsychosis

So much disinformation doing the rounds today.

Khelif isn't trans. 

Khelif wasn't "born a man" 

Khelif has lost fights to at least nine different women. 

Khelif does not have a reputation for being a hard hitting boxer. 

As one boxing account put it earlier "imagine being so much technically better than your opponent that you start a global trans panic". 

UnclePsychosis

Oh, and a reminder that Khelif represents the famously liberal country of *checks notes* Algeria, which doesn't recognise gender transition. 

The more I look into this, the more the whole thing stinks of anti-trans bigotry. 

A fairly mediocre boxer, with a fairly mediocre record, hits an opponent who was defending abysmally and the whole fucking world loses their minds.

Timcito

Offset said: 

But she isn't a man FFS.

Must be something in that water again ...