Titanic tourist submersible gone missing

sinbaadi

Why the F would you call your business "xxxxGate" in this day and age?

Asking for trouble.  

elstoof

Seagate was already taken. 

The name was possibly inspired during a submersible parts shopping trip to Maplins

Reverend

LionAquaLooper said:

The thing about his wife is what I read as well.

I haven't read anything about him owning salvage rights. Though I did read that apparently his long term goal was deep sea oil and gas. 

Based on what we know of him  presumably his pla  was to dive down with hundreds of jerry cans, and a repurposed zeppelin for the gas.

danishbacon

some additional reading:

https://www.compositesworld.com/articles/composite-submersibles-under-pressure-in-deep-deep-waters


https://www.insider.com/titan-carbon-fiber-hull-designed-made-6-week-deadline-report-2023-6

https://www.insider.com/oceangate-ceo-said-titan-made-old-material-bought-boeing-report-2023-6?amp

guitars4you

Emp_Fab said:

I doubt very much he had any salvage rights.  That's pretty far-fetched.

 just found out that it was Paul- Henri Nargeolet who is a director of RMS Titanic, that owns the salvage rights - Who also died on the Titan

Tannin

How can anyone "own" salvage rights to an abandoned ship in international waters? Sounds like horseshit to me.

guitars4you

Tannin said:

How can anyone "own" salvage rights to an abandoned ship in international waters? Sounds like horseshit to me.

https://www.noaa.gov/gc-international-section/rms-titanic-salvage#:~:text=The 1987 expedition salvaged approximately,IFREMIR on October, 20 1993.

sinbaadi

elstoof said:

Seagate was already taken. 

The name was possibly inspired during a submersible parts shopping trip to Maplins

Presumably someone warned him off using Watergate.

WezV

Apparently the games controller survived !!!

tony99

Tannin said:

How can anyone "own" salvage rights to an abandoned ship in international waters? Sounds like horseshit to me.

I did look into it a bit when some guy from the company was interviewed the other day. It's all on wiki anyway.

RMS Titanic Inc is basically a company that's changed hands a few times, but in whatever form, they started recovering artifacts from the ship in 1987. In 1994 they won some federal court order in the US to be granted salvor-in-possession rights to the Titanic.

One assumes some palms were greased.

darthed1981

For me they sort of crossed a line when they got permission to cut open the radio room roof to recover the Marconi radio - given the fate of the operators who called for help until the last possible moment and who died, that should stay with the wreck, IMHO.

It's all just commercialism off a marketable tragedy.

Ddigger

HMHS Brittanic is owned by a fella called Simon Mills.  After the insurance pays out, the insurance company effectively own it.  I don't think it cost him much at all.

Stratavarious

WezV said:

Apparently the games controller survived !!!

rogd

west

I just wanted to say in ref to the Titanic ... ( how often would you be able to drop this in to a conversation )  my dad worked for a company most of his life called Welin/ Davits and then Welin Lambie as a marine fitter. ironically in land locked brierley hill west midlands  ...  his company were responsible for the davits that secured the lifeboats on the Titanic in 1912 ... que all the jokes as we did with him...

 Years later Welin lambie were approached by james camerons production company to build  some, accuratly to original plans for the filming of the Titanic film and he was in the team that built them .....

I dont mean any dissrespect to this unfortunate venture and obviously rip to all ...

EricTheWeary

west said:

I just wanted to say in ref to the Titanic ... ( how often would you be able to drop this in to a conversation )  my dad worked for a company most of his life called Welin/ Davits and then Welin Lambie as a marine fitter. ironically in land locked brierley hill west midlands  ...  his company were responsible for the davits that secured the lifeboats on the Titanic in 1912 ... que all the jokes as we did with him...

 Years later Welin lambie were approached by james camerons production company to build  some, accuratly to original plans for the filming of the Titanic film and he was in the team that built them .....

The Titanic anchor was built in Netherton and there's a big plastic replica in Cradley Heath. Neighbouring towns to Brierly Hill. 
An area once famous for iron and steel and particularly chain making. 

west

EricTheWeary said:

west said:

I just wanted to say in ref to the Titanic ... ( how often would you be able to drop this in to a conversation )  my dad worked for a company most of his life called Welin/ Davits and then Welin Lambie as a marine fitter. ironically in land locked brierley hill west midlands  ...  his company were responsible for the davits that secured the lifeboats on the Titanic in 1912 ... que all the jokes as we did with him...

 Years later Welin lambie were approached by james camerons production company to build  some, accuratly to original plans for the filming of the Titanic film and he was in the team that built them .....

The Titanic anchor was built in Netherton and there's a big plastic replica in Cradley Heath. Neighbouring towns to Brierly Hill. 
An area once famous for iron and steel and particularly chain making. 

Yes I know lol ...   Hingleys .....  round oak steel woorks and british steel where i worked for a bit ....  also had a relative who didnt survive who was on the titanic ... D. Wood carpenter .. brockmoor  famous for the foundry ....

EricTheWeary

west said:

EricTheWeary said:

west said:

I just wanted to say in ref to the Titanic ... ( how often would you be able to drop this in to a conversation )  my dad worked for a company most of his life called Welin/ Davits and then Welin Lambie as a marine fitter. ironically in land locked brierley hill west midlands  ...  his company were responsible for the davits that secured the lifeboats on the Titanic in 1912 ... que all the jokes as we did with him...

 Years later Welin lambie were approached by james camerons production company to build  some, accuratly to original plans for the filming of the Titanic film and he was in the team that built them .....

The Titanic anchor was built in Netherton and there's a big plastic replica in Cradley Heath. Neighbouring towns to Brierly Hill. 
An area once famous for iron and steel and particularly chain making. 

Yes I know lol ...   Hingleys .....  round oak steel woorks and british steel where i worked for a bit ....  also had a relative who didnt survive who was on the titanic ... D. Wood carpenter .. brockmoor  famous for the foundry ....

Round Oak was where Merry Hill is now? 

When we went to Australia we visited an historic lighthouse and the big lighthouse lenses were from Stourbridge. The tour guide was distinctly underwhelmed by our explanation that’s near where we live. But there was some amazing industry and craftsmanship out of this area once upon a time. 

west

EricTheWeary said:

west said:

EricTheWeary said:

west said:

I just wanted to say in ref to the Titanic ... ( how often would you be able to drop this in to a conversation )  my dad worked for a company most of his life called Welin/ Davits and then Welin Lambie as a marine fitter. ironically in land locked brierley hill west midlands  ...  his company were responsible for the davits that secured the lifeboats on the Titanic in 1912 ... que all the jokes as we did with him...

 Years later Welin lambie were approached by james camerons production company to build  some, accuratly to original plans for the filming of the Titanic film and he was in the team that built them .....

The Titanic anchor was built in Netherton and there's a big plastic replica in Cradley Heath. Neighbouring towns to Brierly Hill. 
An area once famous for iron and steel and particularly chain making. 

Yes I know lol ...   Hingleys .....  round oak steel woorks and british steel where i worked for a bit ....  also had a relative who didnt survive who was on the titanic ... D. Wood carpenter .. brockmoor  famous for the foundry ....

Round Oak was where Merry Hill is now? 

When we went to Australia we visited an historic lighthouse and the big lighthouse lenses were from Stourbridge. The tour guide was distinctly underwhelmed by our explanation that’s near where we live. But there was some amazing industry and craftsmanship out of this area once upon a time. 

Yes round oak was there roughly , level street crossing and the  train to baggeridge brick works a massive employer for the area ...

and the glass depending was stuart crystal  ( other grandad worked there ) . steven williams and corbet crystal ....

EricTheWeary

west said:

EricTheWeary said:

west said:

EricTheWeary said:

west said:

I just wanted to say in ref to the Titanic ... ( how often would you be able to drop this in to a conversation )  my dad worked for a company most of his life called Welin/ Davits and then Welin Lambie as a marine fitter. ironically in land locked brierley hill west midlands  ...  his company were responsible for the davits that secured the lifeboats on the Titanic in 1912 ... que all the jokes as we did with him...

 Years later Welin lambie were approached by james camerons production company to build  some, accuratly to original plans for the filming of the Titanic film and he was in the team that built them .....

The Titanic anchor was built in Netherton and there's a big plastic replica in Cradley Heath. Neighbouring towns to Brierly Hill. 
An area once famous for iron and steel and particularly chain making. 

Yes I know lol ...   Hingleys .....  round oak steel woorks and british steel where i worked for a bit ....  also had a relative who didnt survive who was on the titanic ... D. Wood carpenter .. brockmoor  famous for the foundry ....

Round Oak was where Merry Hill is now? 

When we went to Australia we visited an historic lighthouse and the big lighthouse lenses were from Stourbridge. The tour guide was distinctly underwhelmed by our explanation that’s near where we live. But there was some amazing industry and craftsmanship out of this area once upon a time. 

Yes round oak was there roughly , level street crossing and the  train to baggeridge brick works a massive employer for the area ...

and the glass depending was stuart crystal  ( other grandad worked there ) . steven williams and corbet crystal ....

my friend Richard worked at Stuart Crystal and then ran Red House glass repairs for many years, he would occasionally feature in newspapers as the skills in repairing lead crystal had become so rare it was one if those things that would get asked in the Observer or somewhere and they’d give his details. I don’t know what the Observer readers made of the thickest Black Country accent you’ve ever heard. Richard was also the technical person behind Diamond Bottleneck slides. I don’t know who made the ones in Australia, these massive bits of lead crystal that had been taken half way around the world in the nineteenth century and were still intact.